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RE: Claiming a first come campsite
Ok, so here is a question I'll be dealing with this summer.
3 families meeting up in a campground. Half of it is first come first served. We are arriving on a Monday from different parts of the country. Would it be kosher if the first family went ahead and claimed (and paid) for 3 spots knowing that all three will be occupied by the end of the day? It's a very popular campground in Colorado which is why we are arriving on a Monday in hopes of there being 3 sites available.
Thoughts?
I would say no. The way I see it the person(s) that is going to actually camp there is the only one that has the right to claim a spot.
By your logic someone could come in and tie up any or all of the campsites pending the arrival of some hypothetical guests at the end of the day, while campers who actually made the effort to arrive there early are denied those sites.
I would tell your family members to make every effort to arrive early and take their chances like everybody else.
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Eurocamper
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05/22/13 07:58am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Claiming a first come campsite
I checked the rules for several federally operated campgrounds, including National Park, Forest Service and BLM Web sites. This seems to be the standard: "At least one camper must occupy site on first night and campers may not leave equipment unattended for more than 24 hours." The wording was nearly identical for each site.
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Eurocamper
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05/22/13 07:10am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Claiming a first come campsite
What no tag to put on the site with dates to show when the site is in use. Like many state parks issue?
I wouldn't rely on just a tag. It could fall off, be removed or maybe the information would be unclear to someone looking at it.
One late afternoon I pulled into a BLM campground that required tags to be posted. On the tags you were supposed to write your arrival day and your departure day. I grabbed a site that had a tag that stated the previous user had departed that day. The site was completely bare, not even a stick of wood.
Well, that night around 10:00 p.m. a truck camper pulled up and the driver got out. Yep, he had payed for the site but had filled out the form incorrectly. The camp host sided with me and fortunately there were quite a few other open sites, but the whole mess would have been avoided if he had left something in the site to mark it.
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Eurocamper
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05/21/13 09:55pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Claiming a first come campsite
I don't want to leave valuable gear at a campsite to show it is "taken" and we don't want to have stay parked in the space. Interested in what people have done successfully in this situation.
Buy or make a campsite occupied sign and put it up in a conspicuous spot. A tablecloth would be an inexpensive place holder too.
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Eurocamper
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05/21/13 09:00pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Claiming a first come campsite
I will say that it ticks me off to arrive at a site and see a lawn chair or cooler sitting there with nothing else. They are taking a site and not using it for a day or so and to me that just aint right. If you want to be the "first come" then set up and use the sight!
Steve
Really? Are they supposed to stay in their site 24 hours a day? Maybe they're out exploring in their truck camper or motorhome. I used to camp in a Volkswagen camper and frequently left just a chair or a cooler in my site when I had to go somewhere - and sometimes I would be gone all day.
Sidenote: I made the mistake of leaving some Lynx Levelers in my site once when I drove off in my VW for a few hours. I figured it would save me a few minutes leveling the van when I got back. Sure enough, somebody came by and took them.
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Eurocamper
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05/21/13 08:51pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Stopped by the Ram dealer
The Longhorn's Western theme may not be to everyone's taste, but I know I sure like it. Sitting in it is quite an experience. My only (minor) complaint is that I prefer the chrome bumper and I think all the Longhorn bumpers are painted.
If I was in spitting distance of owning the Longhorn over the Laramie there's no question I would spend the extra money for the Longhorn.
I really like what Ram has done with all of their interiors, even my ST is not too shabby.
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Eurocamper
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05/21/13 04:44pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Utah to Colorado
I prefer some high elevation places and really love dispersed camping. I was checking out the Flaming Gorge area and it appears to be about an hour away from Rock Springs. ....
Should we bring the Kayaks? A river float would be really cool but getting a ride back to the truck might be challenging. Maybe a guided river rafting trip might be better idea. All these choices............
There are several guide services at Flaming Gorge that will shuttle your car from the dam to the take-out at Little Hole seven miles down river. That section of the Green River is extremely scenic and contains some splashy class II rapids.
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Eurocamper
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05/21/13 03:29pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: Does your insect repellant work?
Permethrin seems to have more drawbacks than DEET.
It is listed as a "restricted use" substance by the EPA due to its high toxicity to aquatic organisms. Excessive exposure can cause nausea, headache, muscle weakness and seizures. It is classified as a likely human carcinogen and high doses have been shown to have tangible neurotoxic effects on mammals and birds, including human beings. Link
Picardin, on the other hand, sounds very promising. Side effects sound minimal. As it's only been approved for use in the United States since 2005, I think it would be premature to claim it's any safer for long term use than DEET, which has been in use since 1946.
I think I will give picardin a try.
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Eurocamper
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05/20/13 08:59pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Does your insect repellant work?
Don't want Lyme disease or West Nile? Take a trip to a local organic pet store. You will find authentic natural products that actually repel unwanted bugs and insects using only 100% true essential oils and NOTHING more.:C
Obviously, if someone is inclined to take their medical advice of the guy that sells them dog food over the advice of the FDA there is nothing I can say that will change their mind.
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Eurocamper
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05/20/13 02:24pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Does your insect repellant work?
Forget all the DEET and other chemicals.
Get some AVON SKIN SO SOFT to combat mosquitos, etc.
Don't believe me? Google it and see for yourself.
I don't believe you and I did Google it:
Comparative Efficacy of Insect Repellents against Mosquito Bites
Snopes
EPA facts on DEET
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Eurocamper
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05/20/13 11:23am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Does your insect repellant work?
Mosquitoes cause about 1 million deaths per year worldwide. One of those deaths was my wive's cousin who died of mosquito-born encephalitis.
DEET use has been responsible for 14 to 46 cases of seizures and 4 deaths since its introduction.
I'll take my chances with DEET.
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Eurocamper
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05/19/13 05:05pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Any good CG near Kemmerer WY?
We didn't like anything in Kemmerer so we ended up going to the KOA in Lyman. It was a shame because I really enjoyed Fossil Butte National Monument and would have spent more time there if there was a decent campground nearby.
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Eurocamper
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05/19/13 12:15pm |
RV Parks, National Parks, State Campgrounds & More
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RE: So where did you dry camp today?
I'll add our latest. Antelope Island State Park, UT. Amazing place in the middle of Great Salt Lake. Only problem are the gnats!!
But the views....to die for. Sites are HUGE and only $10/night.
http://wheelingit.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/img_7840-jpg.jpg width=500
Wonderful place to camp. Some of the best views of the Great Salt Lake available and oh, the sunsets! I try to get out there at least once a year. Yes, the bugs can be bad in the spring.
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Eurocamper
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05/18/13 10:58pm |
Public Lands, Boondocking and Dry Camping
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RE: So where did you dry camp today?
BLM camping outside of Moab, Utah
Which Moab BLM is this? Looks much nicer than the spot we stayed at (Big Bend)
Sand Flats Recreation Area
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Eurocamper
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05/18/13 10:45pm |
Public Lands, Boondocking and Dry Camping
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RE: Need help on planning for Idaho trip
I found Ketchum to be too touristy for my taste so we continued up to Stanley.
There are dozens of campgrounds around the Stanley/Ketchum area - LINK. I stayed at Mormon Bend on the Salmon River. The fly fishing was excellent right in front of my campsite. We day tripped to Redfish Lake and spent an afternoon at the Sawtooth Fish Hatchery watching the salmon run through the ladders there.
The Sawtooth area is truly spectacular, I would compare it to Grand Teton National Park, but without the crowds.
X2 on the suggestion of "City of Rocks." It's a beautiful and unique area with both primitive and developed campgrounds.
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Eurocamper
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05/16/13 12:11pm |
Public Lands, Boondocking and Dry Camping
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RE: Funny Town Names?
I have a friend from Bald Knob, Arkansas.
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Eurocamper
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05/15/13 09:24pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Warped Attitude
You know, this site used to be about swaping info on maintaing your RV but has turned into a B***h session about nothing. Example : http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26942416.cfm is a post asking for help with their MH, it got 21 replies so far. http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26940817.cfm about Boondocking at Walmart has 73 replies. Everyone has to get their 2 cents worth in about Walmart but very few care to help a fellow RVer with their problem.
Maybe it's because there are a lot more Walmart shoppers than motorhome mechanics reading this forum.:R
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Eurocamper
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05/15/13 08:27am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: New invention could benefit RVers.
Now imagine a 26 ft motorhome that got 16 MPG using the Oldsmobile Toronado drive train (the Olds got around 8 MPG).
http://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/4.jpg
1971 Travco.
16 MPG? Really?
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Eurocamper
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05/14/13 07:56am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Bear bell for dog?
First, as a dog owner I'm glad you dog is all right; second, I don't see this as a leashing issue. If your dog knows its name and has good recall just keep it within hollering range.
I know bird hunters use bells to keep track of their dogs, I don't see why you shouldn't. In fact, it's such a good idea I think I'll get a couple for for my dogs to wear in the back country.
I don't see a down side. In all likelihood predators will see/smell/hear you pet regardless of the bell; there's no reason I know that a predator would associate a bell with food; its a good aid for you to keep track of your dog in the brush; and it may well scare predators away.
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Eurocamper
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05/13/13 02:05pm |
RV Pet Stop
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RE: CO/Propane detector
Was it always plugged in to AC power OR did you just plug it in when getting ready?
Battery shows 'full charge'.........those panel indicators will always show full charge when plugged into AC power.
If you just plugged it in when getting ready......agree that low battery voltage was cause of alarm and then as battery voltage increased from charging alarm reset.
This is a combo unit (CO & Propane)?
Always thought 'propane' detectors were installed down floor level and CO detectors higher on wall due to the way the vapors collected......hummmmmmm :H
I have seen combo CO/Smoke detectors but not CO/propane detectors.
It was always plugged in. I'm fairly sure it is a propane CO unit. Mounted near the floor. I was purging all the air out of the hot water tank at the time. I had the kitchen tap open (hot). It is fairly close to the detector. Not sure if fumes could be trapped in lines & tank could set it off. I just checked again & it seems O.K. now.
Carbon Monoxide is lighter than air, this means that it will float up towards the ceiling. CO detectors should be mounted on the ceiling or high on the wall. Propane is heavier than air and sinks to the floor. That's why propane detectors are mounted at floor level. I'm sure you have a propane detector there.
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Eurocamper
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05/12/13 04:12pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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