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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
My 2005 Onan Parts Catalog lists three different pumps for the Model 2.8 KV
KV spec A,B part # 149-2140
KV spec C-E part # 149-2588
KV spec F-K part # 149-2615
The Spec Letter is the last character in the Model Number
My Model Nnumber is 2.8KVFA26100K so it is a "KV spec K"
Part # 149-2615
It is made for Onan by Airtex with the Airtex part# E11014
If you have one of the other two you need to call Airtex to get their part number. Or email them. They answered me the next day.
This is who I talked with:
Shane Neuman
Tech Line Manager / NIR Coordinator
Ph::1-800-424-7839 Ext. 3
Fax::618-847-8730
On Amazon here
I see it went up from $45.05 since I got the "only one left" a couple of weeks ago.
You could call Cummins in San Leandro with your Gen Info to verify the Onan Part Number.
Like I said my parts book is an 05 so I don't know what happens after spec K.
You can Google the E11014 and find it in a few other places also.
Vic Hubbard in Hayward is an Airtex dealer and I think their price was about $47 but they did not stock it and would have to special order it. I just did not want to wait.
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FLSTFI
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05/09/13 12:11am |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Thought I should update this and let you know I didn't get off so easy.
I thought everything was fine after the Seafoam treatment.
Did not use it much but always did the monthly 2 hour exercise.
Had a hiccup in October and March but after another dose of Seafoam
it ran okay so I did not worry about it.
We were thinking of taking a short roadtrip at the end of April and even though it ran good at it's monthly exercise in early April I thought I should run it again to keep it "primed".
It would not run for more than 10-15 minutes before it started surging and then die. It was 80 degrees that day. I looked at my generator log and saw that the only times it had a problem was if the temp was over 60 degrees. All the times it ran good it was under 60.
So I figured I should finally get serious about it.
I found my old pressure gauge and a 1/4" tee and hooked it to the outlet side of the fuel filter. (Because of the short hose I could not get to the bottom clamp.)
When the gen would first start, it would read 2 pounds and then slowly drop to zero ! Not good for a fuel pump that should read between 2 1/2 to 4 pounds even thru the filter.
Called Cummins West who is only about 5 miles from me. $92 plus tax for the pump and $155 an hour figuring at least 3 hours.
Came in the house and ordered a pump on Amazon for $45 with free shipping and had it in 2 days.
Installed it the next day along with a new longer fuel line and new filter. Ran it for 3 hours. Put the pressure gauge on it. 4 pounds at start up down to 2-2 1/2 after getting hot.
Was able to lower it with a floor jack onto blocks (Thank You Liketoroam) without disconnecting anything but the fuel line but it still took me 5 hours. Even with it down and open, the pump is buried back in the corner and a PITA to get to.
So we took it for a trial run
Took 80 to Tahoe, 50 (the Loneliest Road)across Nevada, 15 down thru Utah to Barstow and 5 and 580 up to home.
With a few stops along the way.
Nice having that gen and AC when spending the night at Boron Rest Stop.
Thanks for the help and suggestions.
Hope I don't have to add an addendum to this, it is already too long.
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05/08/13 06:57pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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New TV AND Memory Foam for RT 210P
We have had the 2006 RT for seven years and along with it we have gotten seven years older. It is time to do something to make the twin beds more comfortable.
Looking for opinions and recommendations on thickness, brand and where to look for. And if anyone has put it in a 210P with twin beds what size did you get.
It is also finally time to change out the old TV to one that doesn't need a converter, and has a built in DVD Player.
Ours has the TV mounted at the foot of the driver's side bed on the refer wall. The mount only swings out, no swivel. I think it was made in house by RT.
What's a good choice for a TV/DVD and if possible will fit on the same mount?
Anyone make the change using the old mount? Or if you installed a new mount what did you use?
Thanks
John
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05/08/13 05:36pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: Help with generator!!!
Google Generac NP-30G and see if anyone has the same or similar
problem.
And maybe you can find something in here that will help NP-30G Manual
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02/14/13 07:09pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: Rollalong Interior lights
Bob
Back in the late 70's there were a few Rollalongs in the San Leandro and Hayward area. Tony Farr Campers in Hayward sold them.
To bad you don't have one. I could deliver them to you the next time I see my dentist in Alameda.
(My Brother and I played many rounds of Golf at Alameda Golf Course when we were kids)
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12/22/12 12:47am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Rollalong Interior lights
Not trying to sell them. I would give them to someone that has a Rollalong.
There's got to be some still on the road.
I'll spot one some day.
I wouldn't throw them away either.
That would be the job of who ever goes thru my stuff when I am gone.
(If they are still here.)Them and the rest of the "stuff" filling up my garage.
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12/21/12 07:30pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Air Bags for RT 210
jadatis
Thank You. That is how I determined how low I could go.
I know the axle weights and I run the tires at the pressure in the
"Load and Inflation Tables" plus 10 psi as a safety margin. That still leaves me below the maximum inflation pressure of 80 psi.
I think somebody here did install the air bags on a 210 ??
Was there any problems because of the Van Conversion ?
I guess I need to crawl under the Van and see if anything might be in the way.
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12/21/12 06:57pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: Class B Towing/Rear Axle Capacity
I can tell you what our 2006 210 weighed at a CAT Scale the day we drove it off the lot.
4120 lbs front axle GAWR 4300 lbs
5260 lbs rear axle GAWR 6084 lbs
9380 lbs total GVWR 9600 lbs
And that was with only the full tanks of fuel, propane and fresh water it came with, plus the two of us and 115 lbs of German Shepherd.
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12/20/12 07:37pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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Rollalong Interior lights
While rumaging around my garage I came across something I had forgotten about for over 20 years.
Anyone remember the Rollalong Class C Motorhomes?
Back in the late 70's, early 80's, we had 3 in our family.
I have some lenses and ballasts for the short and long flourescent lights that came in the Rollalongs.
Had a couple of lites go out so "POP" ordered enough "just in case"
Some of the lenses have "Rollalong" molded into them.
I have searched this forum and the internet and cannot find any real info on Rollalongs. (I thought there might be a club somewhere).
If you know of anyone with an old Rollalong that could use them let them know.
If they are in the SF BayArea all they have to do is stop by and pick them up.
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12/18/12 07:30pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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Air Bags for RT 210
After reading the question and answers about the hard/harsh ride in the back of the Pleasureway it got me wondering if air bags could help in our situation.
When I had the 4WD Conversion done to the Van several years ago, besides all the work in the front, the rear springs were ReArched and a couple new leafs were added. Also a swaybar and the Rancho Adjustable Shocks.
Lost the nice smooth ride of the 210 front and rear.
I was able to smooth out the front some by dropping the tire pressure (still keeping it within safe limits) and changing the Ranchos out to Bilsteins. Also experimented with the bump stops.
But I have not been able to help the rear much.
I dropped the pressure in the rear tires and have tried the Ranchos at all different settings.
In the other thread Jim (Handbasket) mentions having just enough air in the rear bags to take "the thick, short bottom leaf spring out of play in normal driving".
Think it would be worth a try?
Any other thoughts ?
Thank You
John
Also thought about softer springs, but then I would probably need air bags to hold it level with any weight in it.
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12/18/12 06:59pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: Reefer Madness
Look at the bottom of the first page, D1.
It looks like it was printed in 8/89 ???
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11/17/12 10:13pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: Storage Solutions
My wife came up with this idea. She had Sportsmobile install a stainless steel back splash. All of the items you see here are held in place with magnets so nothing has to be stored away each morning.
What kind of magnets stick to Stainless Steel ?:)
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08/27/12 12:52am |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Finally gave up trying to get the filter out.
It will only come up high enough to where I can just feel the bottom clamp with my finger. I pushed and pulled and twisted thinking maybe the hose was hung up on something. Was afraid it might pull right out of the hose clamp and the next step would be for sure to drop the gen.
(I could tell the fuel pump wasn't dead and the filter wasn't clogged when I bumped the start button accidentally)
Not so funny thing about it, when Cummins changed the magneto under warranty they also put in a new fuel filter and plug and the mechanic said he put in a longer fuel line to make it easier to change the filter next time !
I did put 2 cans of Seafoam in the gas tank when I changed the oil and filter in the Van and the oil in the Gen on Sunday. So I connected the filter back to the carb and fired it up.
Ran it for 2 hours cycling between AC and Heatpump.
Ran and sounded smooth.
Maybe the Seafoam was all it needed (or maybe because it was a much cooler day).
I'll call it good for now. But if it acts up again I have a fuel filter and fuel line and I'll get a fuel pump.
And I don't know if it has been mentioned before but the Onan fuel filter 149-2137 is a Wix 33031. $4.29 at O'Reilly.
And the fuel pump 149-2615 is an Airtex E11014. Saw it for $44 at Amazon.
Jim
Too bad the right-angle needlenose pliers aren't the secret. I have a pair of those left from my Dad, also a former TV repairman.
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08/22/12 10:46pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Finally had a little time so I thought I would run some seafoam thru the gen and change the fuel filter.
I pulled the outlet hose of the filter off the carb thinking I could just pull the filter up and disconnect the inlet side and put a new filter in.
BUT, the filter won't come up high enough to get to the bottom clamp.
Anyone else have this problem ?
Am I missing something easy ?
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08/19/12 10:54pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Jim
I have not tried that.
I was thinking that since it started right up after it had died that there must have been fuel there. Did not have to crank it like when it has been sitting for awhile. I guess I will have to try that.
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07/30/12 01:17pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Since I had some yardwork to do I went ahead and started the gen with AC. Ran 45 minutes then started surging and finally quit.
Let it sit 15 minutes and started it again. Fired right up. Didn't have to crank like it was out of fuel.
Turned on the AC as low as it would go so it wouldn't cycle.
1 1/2 hours later and it is still running smooth.
Didn't want to go out again so I shut it off.
It might be heat related because the temp dropped about 10 degrees since I started.
Maybe the next hot day I'll try it again.
And then again maybe I'll just wait and see what happens next time.
I will still run some seafoam thru it and see if it helps.
And change the plug and filter.
I am sure you can see dropping the gen is a last resort.
Since it wobbled so long before it finally quit I am wondering if maybe it could be the governor ???
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07/29/12 08:07pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
I looked around my garage for a socket or something that was about the same size as the ID of the spark arrester.
Found an OLD 3/8 drive phillips head socket that must be WW2 era that I had with a bunch of my Dad's old stuff.
The socket is tapered and the same diameter as the ID. Tapped it into the spark arrester. Grabbed the spark arrester with some Channel Locks and with a lot of twisting got the thing out.
The spark arrester looked brand new. I don't think there was one hole in the tiny mesh screen that was blocked.
Put it back together. Enough for today.
Thanks for the help and directions and ideas so far.
Liketoroam - Can you give a short step by step of setting the Gen on blocks under the van and then getting the bottom off ?
Thank You
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07/29/12 04:23pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Finally got a little time to try something.
Got the tailpipe off and the little screw that holds the spark arrester. Besides the solvent how does it come out? Straight down or can you try and twist it back and forth? Is it just the carbon build up that holds it so tight?
I tried to "lightly" grip it with a pair of pliers but it "deforms" pretty easily.
What and how did you get it to come out?
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07/29/12 02:03pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
Thought I would give it a try this morning while it was still cool.
After 1:30 minutes running under load I came in to getting something to eat. When I went back out in about 20 minutes it was still running but started surging and then quit. Started it again and it ran for about 20 minutes then quit.
The spark arrester should be an easy one to check so I will do that first.
CJBill, your description with the fuel pump problem sounds like it could be the same problem. I will check the old service manual and see how much work is involved in getting to it.
Any more ideas keep them coming.
Thanks all for the help.
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07/22/12 12:56pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: 2006 RT Onan 2.8 cutting out
I checked the "usual suspects" (the real easy stuff) first.
Clean air filter. Spark plug looks nice and clean and proper gap.
Oil level full and plenty of gas.
I started it again and turned on the AC. Voltage and Hz was nice and steady 117 +/- and 60 +/- under load.
After 10 minutes it started wavering and finally died.
Started it again and with no load voltage and frequency look good but it only lasted about 5 minutes.
Because it starts and runs good I was thinking it might be heat related. But I don't see a high temp switch??? Maybe something in the control circuit breaking down ??
But even though it runs for a while I guess I shouldn't rule out fuel system problems because it does go up and down for a while before it quits.
Maybe I will take the air filter off and shoot some carb cleaner thru it.
When the weather cools down I will try Handbasket's suggestion. And I will pick up a new fuel filter to change at the same time. Been under there enough for today.
Rodger I do have the service manual. I guess I better start looking the wiring diagrams.
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07/21/12 07:17pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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