RE: our new mule
You will be limited to about 12000 lbs if the payload really is that much (2598). Only way to know for sure is to subtract your actual curb weight from the trucks GVWR. I suspect it will be less and limit you further.
...read over the 2598#...not a lot....OP would be right to do what fla-gypsy recommends.
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
I had an 07.5 Chevy that went into regen, as did the 2010 and 2012 Ram, but only way you knew it was to pay attention to ave. fuel mileage and watch it drop (some have instantaneous mpg)..never had a light or message state that truck was in re-gen...would have been nice if you did know..because if you stop in the middle of a regen back then, it just started all over again when you started the truck back up....if mpg didn't give it away, you could tell by the smell and heat coming from exhaust pipe...got hot.....
RE: our new mule
17,000# sounds pretty heavy for a 3/4 ton truck....could have 3400# pinweight....Guess I'm "old school"...start getting into 17,000# plus, I'd want a dually, if for no other reason than stability..but I do my towing on some mountainous, curvy secondary roads...
I know they've raised the weight limits on these trucks, and think that the 2500 has a 10,000# GVWR now, but not sure of that..but I would probably hang around at 14,000# GVWR just to be safe...
RE: 2013 ram 2500 / 3500 tie rod
I also like the stability control they added...off topic I know, but nice on a dually.....Rick, did you look at the rear spring pack? The 10' and the 12' were basically identical...not the 13', completely different animal underneath the exterior.
Belive the new front suspension helps the truck ride smoother, even the wife seemed to think it was a quiter smoother ride than the 12, and that's saying something when the wife makdes that comment:)
And a wife dear to your heart. I'm really debating selling my 2010 for the 2013. It's not even barely broke in yet. 26,000 miles with some goodies added.
My 10' had about 38,000 trouble free miles on it...I hope the 13' will be as dependable and reliable as the 10'...I really like the truck...When I saw ALL the improvements they were making, I just thought, "I got to have this truck"....didn't "need" it, per say, but really wanted it...got a little over 500 miles on it now and even the wife just wants to "go out for a ride in it"...SWEET:B
RE: 2013 RAM HDs driven/tested
..Larry, didn't mean that "who cares" in a smart aleck way...it's just never done anything for me one way or the other and I owned Chevy's that won those contest....My idea of a great truck, be it Chevy/GM, Ford or Dodge/Ram is that it's reliable, looks good and does the job that I want it to do..don't care if it's the fastest, has the most HP or TQ, most GVWR, GCWR and on...honest, it doesn't matter to me, if that had been the case, I wouldn't have purchased the 2010 or the 12 Ram, because the Ram placed last in those test....
So again, I wasn't trying to be smart mouthed about it, I guess I should have worded it that "I" don't care because I know some do. I apologize if I came off in the wrong tone, wasn't trying to...
and, I guess I really didn't need the new truck,but I didn't need a new kitchen either... guess we're all different in what we want or need or buy or like, guess what I do probably seems stupid to you and a lot of others on here, guess it's who I am, but as long as I and my family are happy, guess that's all that matters...sorry to have offended....
RE: 2013 ram 2500 / 3500 tie rod
I also like the stability control they added...off topic I know, but nice on a dually.....Rick, did you look at the rear spring pack? The 10' and the 12' were basically identical...not the 13', completely different animal underneath the exterior.
Belive the new front suspension helps the truck ride smoother, even the wife seemed to think it was a quiter smoother ride than the 12, and that's saying something when the wife makdes that comment:)
RE: 2013 RAM HDs driven/tested
Will you buy the truck that wins??
chevman
I did, then I didn't, now I don't know or even care:)...(ie, Chevy, Ram...now???)....
RE: 2013 Ram 5th wheel hitch
The frame has changed on the 13' as opposed to the 12'..I know, I had a 10 and a 12, which were the same, now the 13'. mine is set up for the adapter, but I too am waiting to see what the adapter will do for my 20K Reese Signature hitch....one can completely ignore the 5er/GN package and still mount the 5er hitch in the traditional way, one did just that on the Cummins forum and showed pictures, bummer is, you'll still have the 5 holes in your bed with the covers over them.
It wasn't well thought out to say the least.
RE: NC Haulers new ride
double post....haven't done that in a while...hey, did you ever notice when you double post in here, just how quite it can get.....
RE: NC Haulers new ride
BigToe,
I got the measurements....I went from center of hole to center of hole...looks like a T-bolt or something like that is going to hold the adapter in place. I used a tape measure so this is really close.
from L to R, or R to L, it's 39" across....from front to back it's 30"
so you have a rectangle, 39" L to R and 30" front to back...with the big GN hole in the middle...hope this helps...it's close, but may be off a tad, but not much
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
OK...Said I was driving up to WV today...we're here. I topped my tank off Tuesday...I fill until it clicks and that's it with the 13'..Anywho...First check included some city driving, driving to and from work and some of the trip up today. Had 262 when I topped off again, took 16.9 gallons and I had put 262 miles on it...EVIC said 15.6...hand calc put it at 15.5
Second top off was about 1/2 mile from my camp...topped off tank, EVIC showed I was getting 16.7 mpg..(some interstate, last 40 was secondary mountainous curvy roads...45-55 mph mostly...I put 9 gallons in and had 150 miles on the meter...made it 16.66 mpg...EVIC stated 16.7 really close....I NEVER got that kind of mpg taking the same trip on the same roads with the 10 or the 12' Ram...this truck now has a little over 500 miles on it...I'm impressed and it performed flawlessly....love it:)
Maybe a little to soon with only 500 miles... but did you notice if it ever went into regen mode on your trip?
No, got to admit, I couldn't tell...never saw average mpg drop off, I understand with the new emissions, regen still happens, just not as often? (that's more a question than a statement)...last Chevy I owned, an 07.5, and the 10 Ram, I could tell by watching ave. mpg...just did it, don't know why...Also could tell with the 12'...with mpg as high as it was for me(compared to 10' and 12'), I just didn't see it, but if it did re-gen, got to admit, I couldn't tell.
RE: NC Haulers new ride
NC Hauler, I think your uniqueness is assured.
I'm now thinking the other guy's handle was NC Hornet. With the NC and the H's and the letter count and the syllables the same, perhaps you'll forgive me for being confused for a bit.
I'm excited to get those measurements!
Did you get 16.666 TOWING???
What rear gear ratio do you have? Dodge, excuse me, FIAT offers three (3) ratios for the CA drivetrain (Cummins/Aisin... thought you might appreciate the new abbreviation with your history coming from the DA drivetrain).
3.42
3.73
4.10
Do you have the 14,000 GVWR, or one of the de-rated GVWR's?
Thanks!
NO it wasn't towing, but MAN, just think if it were:B, sorry, all those were running empty with me, the wife and two boxers in the back....had my toolbox full with my Champion 7500/9000 in the bed of the truck...I have the 4:10 rear end.
All the D/A had the 3:73....never had a 3:42 in a truck.
bear with me for a few and as soon as I find my tape measure, I'll get back in here.
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
OK...Said I was driving up to WV today...we're here. I topped my tank off Tuesday...I fill until it clicks and that's it with the 13'..Anywho...First check included some city driving, driving to and from work and some of the trip up today. Had 262 when I topped off again, took 16.9 gallons and I had put 262 miles on it...EVIC said 15.6...hand calc put it at 15.5
Second top off was about 1/2 mile from my camp...topped off tank, EVIC showed I was getting 16.7 mpg..(some interstate, last 40 was secondary mountainous curvy roads...45-55 mph mostly...I put 9 gallons in and had 150 miles on the meter...made it 16.66 mpg...EVIC stated 16.7 really close....I NEVER got that kind of mpg taking the same trip on the same roads with the 10 or the 12' Ram...this truck now has a little over 500 miles on it...I'm impressed and it performed flawlessly....love it:)
RE: NC Haulers new ride
Wonderful! :D That would be awesome! Thank you in advance!
By the way, are you not the same NC Hauler that mastered the 7.3L Powerstroke to the point of developing a crankcase breathing kit filter assembly for it? When did you turn Dodge? Crimeny, I can't keep up with all the changes! Just when I bookmark you in my mind as a legacy Ford guy, you're churning through the cutting edge of Dodges. Is this correct? Are you one and the same? Or is someone wearing an old blue coat your imposter? :)
Nah, not the same guy, I've never owned a Ford pick up, though I've tried, they don't like the color of my money like Chevrolet and Dodge Do:)....THOUGH, the 7.3 would be one I'd own...
Actually I came from the bowtie group...owned Chevy's since 68....In fact from 99-2010...all Chevy's....last 2 being 05 D/A Dually and an 07.5 D/A Dually....
Can't believe there is another NC Hauler...handle seemed so unique when I adopted it joining rv.net. :)
Just got up to our camp in WV....took 2 mpg checks...first one was when I topped off my tank couple of day's ago so I could do some ciphering..some driving was in town, some back and forth to work a couple of day's, then some of the trip this morning. topped off @ 262 miles took 16.9 gallons which makes 15.50 mpg. 2nd. check, when I topped that tank off and re-topped off at a filling station about 1/2 from where I am now..I had 150 miles and it took 9 gallons to top it off, which put me at 16.666666 :).. some of that was Interstate at 72 mpg...but 40 of it was secondary roads where I could run 45-60 mph.
Not too shabby going by the mpg on the 10 and 12'...never got those numbers doing the same driving...and the EVIC showed I was at 16.7, but in reality, it was 16.6666..same with the first one, showed I was at 15.6 and was actually 15.5....not too bad...I felt pretty good about it, got close to 500 miles on the truck now.
Bigtoe, I'll get you those measurements in a few..
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
Geebizz...guys give it a rest
Bunch of cyber bullies...look at whos talking, guys with training wheels...ya'll making up for some short coming ?
Never been a bully, don't recollect calling anyone out, glad you stopped in to let us know that you allude all this to someone's short comings, whatever that means.
If I've offended you in someway, I apologize...but at least I gave you a reason to post....sounds like you've done a little cyber bullying of your own, you tossed out a few insults and no one said anything to you. I apologize for you having to take the time to post this.
Sorry for having gone off topic....Hey, MM49, sorry for saying anything at all...
Back to 2013 Ram DEF MPG....I make a trip to WV tomorrow morning, not towing, but around 255-260 miles, will post when I calc mpg
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
I know I'll sleep better at night knowing the Hardy boys of rv.net solved the Ram mystery.
Sorry gmcsmoke, your right I apologize and am old enough to know who the Hardy boys are....
RE: NC Haulers new ride
Big Toe, I'm at work right now, but I should be able to get you that information tomorrow, if that is ok...I'm heading to WV in the morning and once I get settled in, I'll take the measurements for you and post on here...
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
JA= the "jack ass " remark. Clearly proven a L*ar back in January so he left the thread. Like I said back then, I would be apologetic until March, but I ain't sticken my foot in my mouth come mid May when we all know they have been built by this date.
Let me upload a photo of my 2016 MY D/A I just bought today. Cool truck guys, it has 500HP/ 1000TQ and runs on H2O, seating for a dozen and unladen weight of 3k lbs, GVWR of 20K.
you ain't telling me nothing I didn't already know Rick..got my 16 3 weeks ago, was just embarrassed to tell about me trading once again...those pictures of the 13.....truck belongs to my wife:)
RE: Any 13' Ram DEF MPG yet?
Spoke with the Ram "Guru" on the Cummins Forum....thought I was right about it, below is his reply...he has quite a few connections with them in his 35 yrs. of working for them..also has the print outs showing when production started and when they were released...He's also the one that knew about some hold ups in production with the 3500's...
Here's what he sent me.
"Production startup for the 2500's was Janurary 7th. First 2500 released from the plant was January 26th. Tell him to take a picture of the door jam with date of manufacture on it"
Only thing that I saw as far as build date on mine was month and year unless I'm overlooking something..mine states, April 2013.. BUT, as you can see, they weren't released from the plant until Jan. 26th.....again, no big deal, but it doesn't merit calling people names.
RE: We Took Your Advice Ordered a Dually
I have an 08 Dodge and it tells you on the information center when it's re-gen.
Hadn't heard of that...didn't have it on my 2010 or 2012 and nothing on the 13 either...only get a message if DPF is "full" or close to full and vehicle needs to be ran at highway speed. My 07.5 Chevy had nothing on it either stating that the truck was in "Regeneration", and again, it wasn't on the 2010 Ram, the 2012 nor the new 13'.
Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. My wife and I, both seen it on the information center. They re-gen when needed. If your not looking, while it's being done, you will never see it. We had the information center set at mpg. info. when it happened.
Pretty cool then, your 08' Dodge was way ahead of the game to actually state on the EVIC that "truck is in re-gen"...I've had trucks that re gen since middle 0f 07, 3 being Dodges, and have never seen a message stating, "truck in re-gen"...I know well enough when to look at ave. mpg and see it dropping, knowing the truck is in re-gen...I stated as much in an earlier post...Wished Dodge would have continued that with the 10', 12' and 13'...
