For no more difference in price, have you looked at a 3500 SRW truck? But again, until one actually knows the GVW of the 5er...it's all a guessing game....If 10,000# dry, it may have a GVW of 12,000# or so, which I think would still be doable with a new 2500HD, but again, too many things left out.
N . trouble. ..like the way u think....denali 2500 crew 2wd srw has a payload of 3100...and fifth wheel tow rating of 17300...looks like with a hitch wt of under 2000 and dry trlr of 10k i look ok...thx...bo
...question....if i add 600 of stuff in trailer...does that substantially affect hitch wt...
At first you stated dry weight of 8,000#, now a dry weight of 10,000#?? Which is it? Again, do yourself a favor and see what the 5er's GVWR is....I also recommended that you look at what your RAWR is...You don't have to use GVWR , but RAWR is very important to know.
Again, you initially stated, 8,000# dry, now 10,000# dry...What is the 5er's GVW? I would think if it's under 14,000# you should be ok. I towed a Coachmen Somerset with 3 slides that had a GVW of 14,000# (loaded to around 12,500)...pin weight was 2800#.....GVWR of the 03' Chevy 2500 back then was 9200#...I was well over the GVWR of the truck and a little under it's RAWR..can't remember numbers now, but shortly after went to my first dually....but that was back then....The 2500's have come a long way....but one really does need to know the GVW of their 5er...and believe me, one can easily load 1,000# into one of these things before you know it.
I'd like the way some think also if they agreed with me...I tend to err to the side of safety and again, would want to know my rear axle weight rating, (on drivers door sticker) and would want to know actual GVW of the 5er....dry weight is a joke.
If you add 600#, take 20% of that, ballpark number would add 120# to the hitch weight. If you add 1,000# to the 10,000# "so called" dry weight, you'd have 11,000# which could easily give a pin weight of 2200#....
Well, got the yard mowed, (hopefully for the last time this year), but the leaf raking will be an on going process through Nov..Dec...All weed whacking, trimming caught up....
a tad nippy this morning, around 42, with a sunny day and high in low 60's forecast at this time.
Got a partial eclipse of the sun this afternoon around 4ish...should be able to see it here, supposed to be sunny....
"IF" Kathy can get off tomorrow, we will head back up to our camp this evening....hope all of you are well and having a good day and hope you have a great weekend.
take care...rosie, if your out there, I'm hoping all is well with you.
Jon, keep it between the lines.
breadbasket:..hope you're doing OK down around your area...
...auto...why is that surprising...and I am looking at approx 8000 # dry fivers w 16 - 1800 pin wt...
Do yourself a favor, DO NOT use "dry" weight of the 5er, or dry pin weight...No one tows a 5er dry or empty...You'll have clothes, dishes, pots pans, some outside chairs and on and on...Your BEST BET..is to take the 5er's GVW and use a more realistic number to figure a more realistic pin weight. This will make it much easier on YOU when matching a TV to the 5er you're going to tow. "IF" the dry weight is 8,000#, then possibly the GVW is 10,000#? making a pin weight closer to 2,000#..
What is the GVW of the 5er you're wanting to get?
What does your door sticker state your payload is?
Do you know your RAWR (rear axle weight rating?)
Aren't all 2500's SRW?
As stated, 1500# sounds light for a 5er pin weight...Look and see what the GVW of the 5er you're wanted to get and take 20% of that and it'll give you a "ball park" of how much pin weight you might be putting in the bed of your truck....
I too use a cube electric heater in the bedroom, and we seldom even use the furnace. We also do our cooking in an electric skillet and microwave--and don't go through a tank or two of propane per year.
Same here, fireplace in the livingroom a ceramic heater in the bedroom. It's rare we use the stove..wife loves the convection/microwave combo..but stove is there if we lose electricity....BUT, that's why we also have a generator:)
When space is a premium in RVs, why wouldn't you want a 1500w heater built in, which is what these fireplace unit actually are.
as somebody previously pointed out, the fireplace in their unit would have been on the diagonal and storage space wasted behind it. like you say space (and weight) is at a premium in RVs, so a heavy fireplace vs a light cube heater which both put out exactly the same amount of heat and more vs less space favors the cube. also you can move the cube to the location you are in so that the heat goes there because 1500 watts will NOT heat up an entire RV.
I've pulled my fire place out, weighs about 15-20# maybe? Not what I would consider, heavy... If I pulled it out, I could maybe put two drawers in that space and it wouldn't really help all that much, between our basement and ALL the drawers and cabinets I have in my 5er, last thing I have a problem with is space and weight..
Most of us who have these fireplaces know they only put out 1500 watts of heat, but they add some ambiance to the area and, though I initially didn't care for it, the wife and I really like ours...It's just the way it is, all the negative talk about them isn't going to change anyone's mind for those of us who like them...I have sliding doors that will shut off my living room and this little heater warms that entire area...we take that as a plus, and it doesn't use up any space that I will ever need or would want to use
I guess some hate them and some of us really like them. Mine is going on 8 yrs old and never had to replace or fix anything with it...works and looks great.
If we all had the same taste, it would be a very boring world:)
We had a Snowriver truck camper that was all wood. It was so solid it would put most fifth wheels to shame.
I would imagine the shorter, more compact something is, like a truck camper as opposed to a 40' 5th wheel, that the smaller unit would be compact, ie, more "solid"....No shame with my 5er, it to is VERY solid.:)
I have a 2012 new off the lot Big Country. I did not have a truck at all, so i think i have a say. First off i did some research and found that the 38 ft. ran at 17000 lbs. So i bought a brand new 2011 trailer kit GMC SIERRA 3500 HD long box 4 wheel drive crew cab and put a 16000k hitch by Reese. No dully just 4 wheels. My wife and I fill it to the 9s. It rides just fine. 4 wheels are a whole lot cheaper than a dully and less repairs. You have to think parking space, can wife drive that big a truck i do not think so, mine would kick me around the block. You do not need a Dully.
So OP hasn't been back since posting the above to answer any questions asked? Does the 5er actually have a GVW of 17,000#? IF so, why go with a 16,000# rated hitch? What does OP mean he "fill's it to the 9's"?
It does cost more to replace 6 tires instead of 4, but don't understand the, "less repairs" comment on a dually:h
Maybe the OP will fill us in on some more details to help us understand a little better what exactly his post was about.
Bottom line, if it works, it works...just don't understand the post, but I'm not real bright:)
Beautiful fall weather here in the mountains also Jon...this morning the temp is 45 degrees and clear, supposed to climb all the way to 58 today, though by the end of the week, it's supposed to get back into the 60's.....Mountains look a little like a bowl of fruit loops, pretty fall colors....
Got a lot of yard work to do today. Will get caught up on the yard, trimming and weed whacking and that should be the end of that till spring..but then there are all the oak trees in the yard which equates to raking....sort of a never ending yard work year.
I'm taking this weekend off, so Kathy and I will head back up to our camp Thursday afternoon. It's 255 miles or so up to WVa, but we really enjoy the drive and like being on the river in the mountains...it's great:)
Hope all of you are well...rosie if you're out there, hope all is well with you and your family.
have a good day y'all and take..
What is not being echoed in this thread is that Sailun's are not your typical Chinese tire. They are being made to a very high standard. NC Hauler has made note on a few threads of the accreditation standard that the Sailun's are designed to meet. This accreditation makes all the difference.
Sailun is committed to making a quality tire and it shows. I have yet to read a negative review from an actual Sailun owner
Sailun tires are a game changer. There is now another bonafide option.
Yeah buddy, I mentioned it on the page before this one, I think:B:
"Next time I replace the tires, I'll look at the Sailun tires also and if they still have good reviews and have maintained their TS16969 certificaton, I very well may go with the Sailuns due to the much cheaper price.."
A Chinese tire manufacturer that actually seems to care about quality being built into their manufacturing process...and with TS169699 and ISO140001 accreditation's in place, they can prove it at this point.
I would stick with the GY G or H tires as they are a very high quality tire with an excellent track record the G's did have some problems pre 07 but that is all behind them. They did pay for damages on those that had problems and the still will if you were to have a problem. I have ran one set of GY Wrangler E's, two sets of GY G's and one set of GY H tires all USA Made and never even a flat with many thousands of miles and a lot of those miles are in the South West.
Insurance claim, not for me!
Sailuns may be fine but I KNOW from experience GY's are trouble free.
The last set of 614 tires had a date code Feb 07 and they lasted 2.5 years before I found one coming apart, I was lucky this time because I had no damage. Changed to 17.5 Sumitomo and my tired problems ended.
Early 07 is when they changed the GY G614 from what I have been told and that seems to be the cut off of the problem era.
I was told it was late Nov 2006 when they were changed, it's all PR BS.
We travel with others that have them in the 2010 2011 time frame and they are having problems
My GY614's that are on my 5er now were manufactured in 2010 with a lot of miles on them and all in the mountains and I've had zero issues with them. 5er loaded to 16,100#...in fact, the 0606 build date on the original tires I had; one that lost it's tread, ended up being caused by a weak spring pack, and GY still paid for and mounted 4 brand new G614 tires on my 5er...and THEY'RE the one's that found the weak spring pack...I keep the tires aired to 110 psi, just like tire manufacturer and 5er manufacturer recommend.
Put Sailun 637's, 235/16 G's, on our rig 1 year ago this month....$940 with steel valve stems and balanced.
Our home base is Reno and a Big O store here ordered them from their warehouse over the hill in Sacramento and had them the next day as part of their normal order and were put on that day....great service.
We have about 17k miles them and they show no wear and have had zero problems...have not even had to add air.
Very satisfied and recommend highly.
Thanks for the review..Need all the reports on the Sailun 637's as we can get...glad they're working out for you.
. The LT235/85-16 E R250 or the Ribs @ 3042 lbs = 6084 lbs is a very poor choice for your 7000 lb axles. The tire simply doesn't have enough capacity unless the 7k axles were a upgrade from 5.2k or 6k OEM.
I would tend to support this statement!
I don't. The axles don't weigh 7k lbs. They can carry that.
Thus as long as your not over 6k of weight on that axle, then the tires are fine.
My 7k axles carry 11,240 lbs, or approximately 5,620 each.
However, if your going to go light on tires, you better know for sure what each axle and if possible each tire is carrying.
All in here "know" that the axle doesn't weigh 7,000#:R we know it can carry 7,000#, thus the reason most would "support" that amount of weight that "might" be put on the axle with tires that could "carry" that amount of weight...just not recommended to use "E" rated tires that can only handle 3042# each on 7,000# axles...though it appears you either have higher weight carrying axles on your 5er that you don't need, or you don't carry a lot of weight in your 5er...I too know what my 5er weighs, but wouldn't put E rated tires on 7,000# weight rated axles if 5er has a GVW of 15,000# or higher. My 5er has a GVW of 16,950#, loaded to 16,100# ..so I won't cut corners on safety by putting E rated tires on the 5er...not even the RIBS...I tend to err to the side of safety.
If 6,000# rated axles, could go with "E" rated Michelin XPS RIBS or the Duramvis R250's...IF 7,000# rated axles, I'd go with GY G614's or the Sailun tires
GY does pay for damages....I had a G614 tire throw it tread, never lost one psi...took it to a Wingfoot Dealer and they put a claim in for me, (manufacture date on tires were 0606)..While waiting for GY to reply to compensate me for the tires (damage on 5er was minimal), Service person found that height on that wheel well was only about an inch from top of tire to wheelwell...we saw a weak sping pack....GY STILL put 4 brand new tires on my 5er, steel stems, mounted and balanced......no charge. I had the spring pack replaced.
Next time I replace the tires, I'll look at the Sailun tires also and if they still have good reviews and have maintained their TS16969 certificaton, I very well may go with the Sailuns due to the much cheaper price..
We have the Splendide Washer/dryer combo, (vented)...never had one until about 2 yrs ago..The DW loves it..We own a camp in WVa...no Laundromats near by, so the wife does small loads when needed.....again, she loves it and doesn't have to drag clothes home to be cleaned if we leave the camper at our site.....
Mexican is our friend, just look at the great care our marine is getting.
I say go in and get the Marine.....We're pathetic to let the guy spend that much time in a Mexican jail.....such is life in the USA in 2014..
I got three Chocolate Lab/Australian Shepered mix. Papers with both clubs on both of them. The kids are serious. They'll eat a coyote or a squirrel. Very intelligent but caged at nine months and eager ti run. /Respond to commands. Put one ofthese on a leash long enough to cover the entire undercarriae plus some.
They are all black and double coats.
Will your dog's be around the 5er/TT, 24/7 ? I don't want to let my 5er set for a bit, open it up and find mice have already made a home.....heck, years ago, we had a Yorkshire Terrier that reeked havoc on a whole family of mice, wiped out the whole lot of them in about 3 mins...never seen anything like it and there are a lot of cats bigger than that Yorkie...he had papers too, but don't know what that has to do with anything:h..he could get into places that bigger dogs couldn't get into:)....
All that being said, the peppermint on cotton balls and placed strategically located throughout the unit along with the bags of Fresh Cab also put in various places, (put some in the ductwork of the furnace where the vent is... kept our unit mouse free for a while now.