Alright, so I've decided to buy a new travel trailer. Need some thoughts on Jayco SLX 265BH. It's more entry level which suits me being my first. But I also looked at Shasta Oasis 26RL and Canyon Cat 27RBSC. I'm really leaning towards the Jayco since it will come in around $13k for a 2015 model.
Jayco makes a top of the line TT, with one of the longest warranties in the business. Were it me. That is what I would opt for. Even though I can't find that model listed on Jayco's web site.
I did find the other 2.
sounds like your driving too fast when you have to dodge Children.
One in every crowd :S
I know everyone has different reasons for camping, and everyone has different expectations, needs and wants too. This is one I will add to my list of "game" to play next time I go out .... "Dodge Children!" Sounds like fun! :B Let's see how sharp we can jack the trailer around before it tips over! :B
Got to dodge em. Wrinkles up the front of the truck if you don't :W.. Durn bikes get stuck in the grill. :h
Fact is. A properly balanced TT with a properly adjusted WDH will NOT sway. Sway being defined as the trailer beginning to move back and forth on it's own while running straight down the road. That should NEVER happen at any speed. If is does you have other problems.
It should not sway even IF you have NO sway control. IF it does. Again, you have other problems. Find out what the problem is and fix it. Be it low tires, poor balance, or incorrect hitch. AFTER you fix the sway problem. Get it to run with no sway at any speed. Then and ONLY then add sway control.
Sway control is for those time when sway is induced by dodging a child, deer, or other vehicle. I use sway control just for those time. I have O sway with my TT.
So to answer your question. You should have O sway. Will you feel the TT from time to time? Like in a strong wind, or when another vehicle passes Of course, but it should never pull you around. Never cause you alarm.
We haven't found mention of hitch weight ratings in the manuals of the vehicles we've been looking at. It's the first thing I check for. And none of the sales or service people we've asked has known. I guess well have to take an iPhone and crawl around under the hitch to find a label, although we haven't had much luck with that, either.
Not a label, a stamp. Same color as the hitch
You cannot determine how much tongue/hitch weight your truck can support without knowing the payload of your truck. Your tongue/hitch weight must be subtracted from the payload capacity of your truck.
The dealer will probably give you a hard time about it, but I'd suggest weighing your TT (axle & tongue/hitch weight--road ready with all options) before purchase. Not many people do it, but if you have any interest in protecting yourself from a costly, safety related mistake . . .
We understand what has to be subtracted from what, but our issue right now is very simple: HOW DO WE KNOW THE HITCH WEIGHT CAPACITY OF THE TRUCK?
We bought the TT four months ago and have weighed everything we could think of. The hitch, with two batteries and two propane tanks, weighs 780#s. All we need to know now, for the trucks we're looking at, is HOW DO WE KNOW THE HITCH WEIGHT CAPACITY OF THE TRUCK?
It is stamped on the Ford hitch. One will be weight carrying, prolly 600lbs, and the other higher one will be for a WDH. Prolly 1200lbs. but it is there for you to see. That is what the hitch will carry. However. That 780lb tongue weight is at the BOTTOM of what the Ford will carry. You would have NO problems with that tongue weight with a WDH. that is as easy as it gets, and for those that don't know what Ford they are looking at. It is a XLT with a GVWR of 7800 lb. A pretty hefty GVWR to start with.
The truck you mentioned in the other thread, with a 7800 lb GVWR will handle the TT you mentioned with no problems. 7800 lb is very high for a 150 as most 150s are in the 7200lb class. Unless your truck is loaded to the max with options, which you say it isn't. I would bet it has close to 2000 lbs of payload. To have less. The truck would have to weigh empty over 6000lbs. I bet it isn't close to that. Weigh the truck, subtract that weight from the GVWR. that will be your payload.
However 7800 lb GVWR is pretty close to a HD.
As for the receiver itself. Several years ago Ford started rating their receivers to 10% of the max towing capacity of the highest rated 150 for that year. So If the tow cap for that year was 12000 lb. then the hitch is rated for 1200 lb using a WDH.
I appreciate everyone's suggestions! Thanks!
Looking back, I agree. The paint probably needed some attention when I bought it. But it looked pretty good and I didn't know what I didn't know yet. (Which has happened more than once since I bought it.)
I'm not sure if I will try the "Awesome" cleaner on the RV at first, but I'm definitely going to pick some up! I didn't know this stuff existed. Seems like it cleans all sorts of things.
I also didn't know there was such thing as a cleaner wax. I thought things either cleaned or protected (waxed).
I received a quote for the RV place down the road. They stated they could get it looking great again for $1,200. I would have to imagine that is mostly labor cost. I'm willing to do the work myself, which is why I'm researching now. :)
I have used Awesome on the roof. Big mistake. some ran down the sides, and it killed the paint, and decals where it touched. Wax brought most of it back. But it was damaged. Do the wax first. Awesome is just too harsh for paint. Unless of course it is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, diluted.
Did it last spring. Not a garage, but a carport. No black streaks, no sun to make the roof fixtures brittle, It's GREAT.
It's also 12 feet high, and 35 feet long, and 14 feet wide. Metal roof, with treated 6x6 posts to hold it up.
First thing you need to try is a good cleaner wax. Something like MeQuire's. It will clean oxidation, black streaks and bugs off. IF it does not bring back the shiny finish. Then you will need to take the RV to a body shop, and maybe have them water sand, and buff it before you spring for a paint job
Most on this forum would NOT own a camper with out a slide out. On the other hand, they don't do anything special for me. The TT I have now has one. And while it does give extra room. You really have to be carefull that you don't slide it out into the campsite behind you, and that you have everything out of the way going out, and coming in. DW didn't clear the way on our's last fall, and in caught a cooler going out, and broke a wooden support. Now I have to fix that.
And you have to make sure you can use the camper with the slide in as well. On some, you can't get to the bathroom, or fridge with the slide in. A deal breaker for me
Well there is a Camping World in Statesville, near Charlotte, and there is Tom Johnson Camping Center in charlotte. That would prolly be the best choice.
Charlotte Michigan is where i'm headed ! sorry if I didn't mention that in the post !!
I prolly just missed it, my bad
Yes, other cultures eat dogs. Other cultures treat women like property. Doesn't make it right in this culture.
And before you call me a hypocrite again: I don't eat animals. I don't wear animals. I have never bought a "designer dog" ALL my animals have been rescues. I have spent more time and money caring for rescues than a backyard breeder will ever spend on their business stock.
Again, all this talk about this being just a good business person making good business decisions went out the window when she didn't know her breeding stock was pregnant UNTIL it gave birth. NO GOOD BUSINESS PERSON WOULD EVER LET THEIR BREEDING STOCK BREED INDISCRIMINATELY! NO GOOD BUSINESS PERSON WOULD BE CLUELESS AS TO THE STATE OF THEIR INVESTMENT STOCK!
So, no, this woman is NOT just a good business woman making a good business decision. She has no idea what the H8LL she's doing and thinks letting her dogs repeatedly get pregnant is a quick money making scheme. It's not only unethical, irresponsible, and negligent, but it is stupid, asinine, ridiculous, and bad business.
You don't wear animals? What kind of shoes do you have on? I'd bet you have a pair of sneakers with leather uppers not to mention your shiny good shoes, unless of course ALL your belts, and shoes are cloth? And I would bet you have at least one leather belt. You have any leather furniture, or leather car seat covers? Hard to buy a car with out it now days, and what about your leather wrapped steering wheel? And in truth. If you have none of those things. You are really missing out on the good stuff. Leather lasts a lot longer than cloth.
But you know I just don't buy it, that you have no leather items. I look around my house, my car, my truck, my closet, and I see leather every where. Right down to my leather shoe strings.
Animals are animals. Doesn't matter if it is a cow, skunk, deer, or dog. None should be mistreated. But they are commodities.
Y'all need to get over business people trying to make a living breeding the dogs you buy...
Apparently from your post you breed dogs for money and feel strongly about your right to do so. And yes legally you have the right to as do licensed puppy mills.
Responsible pet owners who want pure bred dogs do not buy from puppy mills or backyard breeders one of the same. 99.99% of dogs in shelters and atrocious rescue situations come from one of these two places.
The words business people and breeding dogs don't belong in the same sentence.
BTW any of you guys use animal products for any thing? You know you do. Right down to your shoes, belts, and the seats in your vehicles. Where do you think that Leather came from?
From by products from animals processed for FOOD for human consumption.
Dogs are NOT food for humans. :R
Where did you get your dogs??? Someone GIVE them to you??? And No I'm not a breeder. But I do live in the real world. Some one breed the dog you have. Designer dogs just don't happen by accident.
I understand (don't agree with) the business model assessment. Our legal system is pretty much set up to agree as animals are considered property. This doesn't make it right.
When you have living, thinking, reasoning, feeling intelligent beings, failing to consider that as part of the business model is just wrong and lacks fundamental characteristics that make us human.
I'm not saying than animal should never be "used" for work, food, breeding, research or any other adjunct to help humans, but that use should justifiable and be as humane as possible and should consider the animal.
Very well said!
Some one had to breed the designer dogs y'all have. they make their living selling you those dogs.
This statement indicates to me that you're profoundly ignorant of what a good breeder is and does. I've had the great good fortune of knowing a couple of really top notch breeders. Neither of them makes any money at all, nor did they ever intend to. They understand that dog breeding is exactly like RV'ing -- an expensive hobby.
The only "breeders" who go into it with any notion of making money are back yard breeders and puppy millers. And you're right about designer dogs -- by and large the people breeding them are in it for the money. They're the back yard breeders and puppy millers.
Good breeders are "in" their breed for years before they even attempt breeding. They typically have a mentor or two in the breed to guide them. They know full well they aren't going to make money, and that quite to the contrary they need deep pockets to support their hobby.
So you are saying. Someone gave you your dog FREE of charge? You didn't have to buy it?
and you are completely wrong about good breeders not doing it for the money. I know several breeders that love dogs, and still breed them for profit. You seem to live in a dream world. Your designer dogs are BIG money. Take a walk thru a big CG. You will see hundreds of designer dogs. Where do you think they come from???:S