Self contained by My understanding is any camping unit that has the following:
onboard bathroom (toilet) facitites,
and a way to store same(grey and black water) holding it until it can be properly disposed of.
NOT thing about power. You can survive without the 120v power.
I had a popup that met these requirements, but I also had a generator for NASCAR races.
Most modern RV's meet these requirements today.
some of the old school PU's would not and some older TT's would not.
Byrdr no one ripped you off on tires. Being squirmy when new and adjusting pressure to suit is just normal. Glad you got it figured out nonetheless.
Oh I know no one ripped me off, I screwed up by not getting things worked out on first set of tires.
I had michelins when I put yoko's on. Just was so unhappy with them(yoko's) I did the changing of tires. I have kicked my behind ever since. $1800 in tire expenses and only recovered 500 of it. So i was upside down as they say. I got 25K on the michlins now and they ride great when pulling the 5er. BUT i could have had the same results for my original 750 investment with a better snow and mud tire..
Lesson in life, even at my age i still screw things up from time to time.
First, make sure they are "E" tires.
New rubber is often soft and squishy so may need to take a few heat cool cycles to finish the setting. Know some other folks are running the new KO2 without an issue though may be they just don't notice it.
Sure hope it settles out quick as I was hoping to go the KO2 when the factory tires wore out.
I had the same issue last year with new Yokohama's AT's.. some what progressive tread. I was so unhappy with them I took a big $$ hit, sold them and bought new M&S Michelin's. I was not happy with them either..
I went back to my tire dealer and told him something was wrong. He checked everything out and found no problems He checked air pressure and reduced the back from 80psi to 75psi and the front from 80psi to 70psi. He said as you drive the heat builds up the tire pressure causing the tire to kinda float on the new softer taller/thicker tread. Once we did this my truck drove much better.
He has been in the business for 25 years one of the best tire guys in town. Should have bought from him first go round but tried to save a few dollars and it cost me in the end.two sets of tire in 2 months and then the Michelin's cost right at $1100 for four. the Yokohama's were like $750 a set and sold them for $500. So the $$ hit.
On a another note:
We are still iffy with stopping with No reservations anywhere for this trip out. I do have my Champion 30amp genny(semi not to loud) set up in the truck and will have extra 5gal NON-ethanol fuel for it and an extra 5 gal of diesel. With it being a holiday weekend and me not knowing where we will be any moment at a stopping time. I figured this would be my best bet. Flying J's or where ever might be better than Wally World's I have several apps loaded on my phone and tablet and with 2 vehicles and camper...Stopping space becomes an issue. Any thoughts on this ??
Any one want to give me heads on Arkansas and Oklahoma CCW rules you can private message me. I am good in Tenn. but other states I cant get a clear picture.
My experience is that I40 sucks especially west of New Mexico. I once drove 1000 miles non-stop except for gas and eats. Took me 18 hours straight thru. Not fun but doable, I was pulling a 20 ft cargo trailer and on a mission.
Dont know if I could do this these days. When I was younger we used to head for Daytona Beach and/or Orlando at 10pm while kids slept. Drover straight through that 500 or so miles NOT sure I could do that now. Sure know I cant drive pulling the 5er 1250 miles on Memorial Day weekend straight through.
both of those site will be on busy on one side or the other of your camper.
4183 is on the main road and next to water fill up & USPS post office for campground homes. the 2178 site is right on the main road coming from the beach & along the beach, lots of golf cart traffic, foot traffic and beach traffic.IT will be very busy and on Friday and Saturday nights the gold cart parade will come right by that camp site.
Just a heads up, whats your timing looking like. Dead of summer? fall? spring break week? this can and will help you with a larger site. Dead of summer you are pretty much locked in. Call them and ask for something different.
Anything on 4000 section towards sites 4001 thru 4050 are larger sites and not all have concrete but most are larger and longer.
the early 3000 sections are larger and longer sites up thru 3040 or so.
anything along the wall by Myrtle beach resort are the longest and can be windy with the wind bouncing off the condo tower.
hope this helps.
All good advise here.
A TT wil respond quicker and will travel backwards easier than a 5er. I have been popup, TT and now a 5er.
The PU was easy like utility trailer. the TT was a learning curve, but once I had it, it was easy to back about anywhere as long as you had room on the front side of truck.
BUT the 5er well lets says that almost 5 years later we still have a curve to learn.
MY best advise is practice practice with either in a school parking lot with some traffic cones on the weekends.
BUT I can get the 5er about anywhere i want but I have to say out loud.. SLOW and EASY.. I have to keep repeteing this statement o remind myself SLOW and EASY. small corrections move the 5er a lot. I back into my parking spot at home from the blind side as they say. SO I have mailbox at the road and a ditch on both sides and then I thread the needle to get it into a 14' wide parking spot. Sometimes I have to pull out and go around the block and try it again.. These are times i am tired from driving home from a trip and I get in a hurry, I forget the SLOW and EASY phrase and I get upset and try again. I will be honest I thought I would never get it. BUT each trip it seems to get easier but i still go SLOW and EASY backing it.. Last trip out I had to back into a camping spot as their drive thru's were filled up. I was worried the whole ride to the campground, then on the money first try.
BUT again Slow and Easy backing...
best of luck,
I know this is a stretch, but I will try anyway. Anyone on this forum from the Raleigh/Garner NC area ever used Gregory Poole's Truck service center on Jones Sausage Rd. to do your annual NC DMV safety inspection? If not, where is a good place to get this inspection done for a Class A?
Not a straight answer but Gregory Poole does our Diesel generator inspections and service work with their quarterly maintenance service.
They have a service center in Mebane, NC.
Seem to be first class from what I have had to deal with. They are a large vehicle, equipment business in and around NC.
I think I would trust them.
Another reason I guess I will keep my 5er. Never thought about this side of the deal always thinking extra tires and bigger engines. never gave NC yearly inspections a thought.
I use Central Insurance out of GA for home, cars, camper and GC.
My GC has the same liability as the cars and truck. It also has comp and collision. I pay around 120 a year for it and I keep it insured year round dont know why other than it just easy to pay monthly and not worry adding and taking it off every camping season(March til November)NOT sure what the savings would be taking off for 4-5 months. then the hassle of adding it back and then having to provide insurance papers every time we go to OLCG. The camper has replacement value plus additional for 4 awning and TV antenna. The 2008/10? EzGo GC and 2011 camper on their own policy then all 3 cars and my truck on another plus homeowners.
We have an 2014 SUV, a 2006 sentra, My 2003 ford and MY youngest 2011 Escape insured.
Central is purchased through and agent locally. she makes sure we have the best rates. but we have used Central since we left Nationwide. They were good on the camper and GC.
Happy hunting for a policy.
There are no mountains anything like going across the Appalachians. Nashville to Memphis is basically downhill with ups and downs crossing river valleys. Memphis to Little Rock is flat, crossing the Mississippi Delta plain. Little Rock to Fort Smith is somewhat hilly, but the road essentially follows the valley of the Arkansas River. To Oklahoma City is a climb, but very gradual, on the order of ten feet per mile.
You can get to Lawton on US-277 (leave I-44 at Newcastle) if you don't want to pay the toll, but add at least an hour to your driving time. I've done this all the way to the Red River, wanted to see what it was like once. It turned a 2 1/2 hour drive into a 4-hour drive.
Thanks,, It looks like with time frame highways are my main route going to Lawton. I have been in contact with the internship program preceptor today so we working out some logistics for arrival dates and return to NC dates. Looks like last week of July she will head back home.
We just got back from Stone Mountain Park, GA around 25-30 minutes outside of Atlanta. Very nice park and with lots of nice full hookup sites. Clean bathhouses if you need those. firewood, very nice store. easy in and out. Only thing is the traffic around the Atlanta area.. plan extra time to get anywhere.
Charlotte has lots of public CG's in and around that area. Dan Nichols county park in Salisbury, NC is nice and just off highway.
I cant help from NYC to VA , but on the NC side i can.
If you are coming down I-95 you need to cross over to I-85 south to get to Atlanta. Several nice NC parks along this route. Several private CG's also.
I-85 just at the NC/Va line is Kerr lake several state ran CG just a few miles off interstate. lots of sites most are back in water and power, most have sewer dumps as you leave. This is common at most NC parks.
I-85 from central NC to atlanta is very different as you drive it. I just got back from Ga last weekend after a week at Stone Mountain park.
Give you an over view of the route.
85 in NC good until just after Salisbury, NC then 4 lanes goes to 2 and they are working on it to widen it all right up to Charlotte racetrack exit. So it is slow going as they move lanes, add bridges, etc. trhough this area.
around Charlotte is busy most any time of the day.. so just take your time.
85 into SC the raod is well not in good shape. Potholes about 2-3 inches deep and they are working on pieces of all the way through SC. mostly around
Greenville and Spartanburg, SC. and the traffic was slow around these area as they are working on the roads and bridges.
The on into GA. the roads were OK until you get close to Atlanta.. Then the interstate becomes a parking lot. KNOW where you are going and try to stay ahead of exits or turns. Folks will buzz your front end off and towing a trailer it will draw the seat up into your hind end..I got off on I-285 going to towards highway 78.. I was a nervous wreck by the time we got to the campground. I have driven around San Antonio, TX and I thought that was a mad house, NOPE!!!! Atlanta traffic might be the worse in the south.
I am sure some will disagree with this but that's my opinion..
So hope this help you..enjoy your time away and camping.
How about thanks to all of you,
who have replied these answers to my questions that has helped me so much..
I have a appointment to get my truck looked at, at a local diesel repair shop, he has done some work on my truck before. I figure better to be safe than sorry. I really don't want to have to trade while on the road.. BUT..
Mom and I talked this weekend, we might try only to stay in Lawton and the area maybe a couple days(Monday to Wednesday) and start on back with plans to check out some Memphis BBQ and Nashville music scene for a day or two.
Still try to be home by Saturday evening so we(ME) can rest on Sunday before the work week starts all over. Then that return trip 9-10 weeks later will be wide open for marathon 5 days. Trying not to burn all my vacation time in this 10 week block.
I will miss my mid-summer get out of the hot weather trip to the NC/VA mountains now.. BUT you do what you got to do..them babies..
We still have serious construction at the east edge of Memphis (I-40/240). Avoid morning rush hour if westbound (also eastbound in the evening rush), plus paving at night (8pm-5am Mon-Thu) on both east and west from roughly mm 15 to mm 23 now thru Sept. BTW, Bass Pro has been open for around a year.
Be patient with construction around Nashville if you don't take the 840 bypass. It adds about 10 miles. I got lucky and we sailed straight through town with no problem. Bass Pro shops just opened the Pyramid store in Memphis and its huge and worth a stop if you are inclined. If you have never visited Pops outside of OKC you should just for the fun of it. Its the place with every kind of soda there possibly is and if you don't drink soda the restaurant serves up good food. Just my 2 cents. Enjoy your trip.
I'm an Oklahoma City Okie. :)
I-40 from the Arkansas state line to OKC is just about like any other places, sort of rough in places, sort of smooth in others.
I-40, East of OKC is being worked on all summer long. It's a 9 mile stretch of the highway in both directions. It starts at mile marker 175, down to 166. One day, only one or both east bound lanes may be open. Another day it may be the west bound side.
As soon as you get past the 166 exit (Choctaw Rd) take the next exit, 240/Lawton exit (right exit). It goes around the south side of OKC, then take the Lawton exit. The first one is Anderson Rd, then Douglas, then Air Depot, Sooner Rd, Sunnylane, Bryant, Eastern, I-35 OKC/Dallas, Shields, Walker, Western, Penn, May, then Lawton. It's 1:15 from OKC to Lawton.
We stop at least for a bathroom break at least every 90 minutes if we need to or not. When we stop, not only do I walk to the bathroom, but also around the area for a few minutes. It is as much to get the blood flowing as anything else. The dog will add to the excuse.
I feel much better after a 10 hour day when I've stopped often than after a 8 hour day when I didn't take the time to get out as often.
If you can leave on Friday and get those four hours in I would do it. That would knock off an hour each day. Plus that should put you in the edge of the mountains the first night so you wouldn't need AC even if you are doing this in June.
Sounds like a good plan on getting the most bang for your buck. If you trust her enough to go to the internship, then I see no problem trusting her to stay in your FW.
Make sure she know how to open and close the tank valve. You should not leave the valves open or you will get a solid build up in the tanks. You need the sudden woosh of the entire tank draining to pull the solids out. Also make sure she uses plenty of water when she flushes, lots more than if you were camping.
Have fun and enjoy the trip. Good luck to you and your daughter.
Thanks on break thoughts.
I am thinking the same thing on Friday night.. I plan to go up the I-77 to Wytheville route and back down I-81 to Knoxville to miss the I-40 traffic and the gorge itself. I have found this route is only about 20 minutes and 15-20 miles longer but it is so much easier than the I-40 route. This is way we travel to Pigeon forge, TN Area anyway.once you climb the mountain around Fancy Gap, VA on I-77 N you kinda ride the ridge to Knoxville on I-81 S at Wytheville, VA.
We will have a family vacation the middle of May(bike week at Myrtle) so she will learn the dump valves and how all that works that week.
She is very trustworthy she has lived on campus the first 2 years and off this year with housemates so she knows the deal.
She is so looking forward to this internship. So I know she will do great things. DAD is probably more nervous than she is. I am not worried about camper as much as I am about her being that far away.
Thanks for all your words of wisdom.
All good posts. Thanks on the drive timing.
20-24 hours sounds about what I had in mind.I knew it would not be 18.50 hrs.
Thanks on the road woes. The toll fees help to have cash in hand.
Plus know where you said to stay the nights helps too.
I might get to know walmart parking lots or Flying J's, Love's etc.
I just drove from Atlanta last Friday towing the 5er and that was a six hour ride with about 45 minute break for fuel and food at the 3 hour mark. MY rear end was dope when I got home..
plus we had the around Charlotte I-85 construction from the race track exit until Salisbury. I-85 Construction around Spartanburg, SC too.
I will be primary driver trying to get the wife to pull an hour or two.. She is still not sure..
My daughter will be driving behind us in her car.
We plan to camp or parking lot camp, I have a generator so that will help with AC and food will be mainly dining out other than fuel stops and then we can sandwich eat at those. My diet is mainly high protein these days and water with crystal light mixes.
We will have one dog with us so she will need to potty break too. 3 hours a leg sounds doable. 8 hours a day would be pushing it?
I may need to find some type of memory foam seat cushion or donut to keep my rearend from cramping. The 03 seats are about toast as far as comfort goes beyond that 2&1/2-3 hr mark..
The wife and I talked earlier today and she asked did we think we could pull out Friday night and get maybe 3-4 hours into trip that evening.
BUT the kicker is: All this is Memorial day weekend for the first days of the trip.
We will go out and spend a few days around the area then come home without camper the next Thursday/Friday. Then do it all again 10 weeks later for a turn and burn return trip. 5 day total on that side of the trip(6 if I had too) vacations days are precious.
The reason for all this is a Summer internship for my rising senior in college. The camper was the cheapest way for her to be able to do this and not break the bank for housing(room & board). 10 weeks is expensive for housing with furniture and all the associated needs. SO the 5er was our best option.
What you ask? you will allow your child to use your camper for 10 weeks 1250 miles & 19 plus hours from home.
Yes unless anyone here wants to donate 4-6 thousand $$ for housing, food, etc. and she has to have reliable transportation, so flying is out..
Thanks and any more comments I would appreciate.
PS I really mean if you feel inclined to donate let me know!:)
Oh yeah fuel prices are on the rise too...:(
OK I have never been past Knoxville, TN going west on I-40 to Lawton, Oklahoma.
My questions are:
Once I am past the smokey mountains on I-40 in NC/TN are there more mountains to climb to get to OK?
or is all down hill or level for the most part?
How are the roads?
I keep hearing to avoid some areas as the interstates are awful, NOT sure this is option, this is planned trip with only 3&1/2 days to get there.
I noticed I-44 from Oklahoma City is toll road (cost)?
Just overall how do you think this trip is?
IS 3&1/2 days do-able?
I know its 1250 miles and timing says 18.5 hours. that's not pulling a 5er with 03 7.3PSD.
Just any advise or words of caution. I will be CCW also.