We purchased both of our motor homes out of state and in both cases, it was a real ordeal and I probably wouldn't do it again. Dealing with California DMV (and probably many other states) is always an act of frustration. Many agents have no idea what it takes to register a motor home, especially a diesel one. You can talk to one agent and get one story and then another agent in the same office will have a different story. Our first coach was purchased in Arizona and the dealer told us that if we paid the Arizona sales tax, that when we got back to California to register and if the California taxes were less (which we knew they were) we would be reimbursed the difference. Turned out that was a total lie and we lost about $1000 on that deal. The agents at our local DMV had no clue on what smog laws our DP motor home had to conform to. It literally took months to straighten out that fubar. We had to have the motor home inspected by several different people and we received two different sets of license plates. Unbelievable.
On our second (and current) coach, we did all of our paperwork in Oregon, paid CA sales tax and registration fees and then the dealer sent all the paper to the Sacramento DMV office and they promptly lost them. When we got back to CA, we didn't received any new license plates and contacted the local DMV. They insisted we start from scratch, pay the sales taxes and registration fees again (we're talking many thousands of dollars here folks). We contacted our dealer in Oregon and they in turn contacted the Sacramento DMV. Between the two of them, they were able to find the original paper work and informed us that our duplicate taxes and registration fees would be refunded to us. Several months later and many more calls to Sacramento DMV, they finally did reimburse us.
On top of all this, the local DMV insisted that they physically inspect the motor home to insure it complied with current smog laws. The tag on the engine that proves this is located down on the front of the engine and since I have a rear radiator, I had to remove the hatch in the bathroom floor to gain access to the engine. It was quite a site seeing that, shall we say overweight, lady agent laying on the bathroom floor with her head and shoulders down in the engine compartment. At least that gave me a little payback.
It took us almost six months to get everything straightened out with our first motor home and four months for the second one.
Just exactly WHEN do they think anybody will parallel park a motorhome?
OR, back it up to a dock at right angles?
IMO, if they are going to have a "skills test" it should be a "Real World" test; something on the order of backing the rig into a campsite from a narrow access road (a la Forest Service campgrounds).
Congratulations to the OP for passing the silly, pretty much useless, test.
I would think a 90 deg dock test, might mimic backing into an angled campsite pretty well. I have seen a number of MH drivers take a loooooong time, and more than 10 attempts, to back into a relatively easy spot. Great entertainment!
I have also parallel parked my MH, and have even parallel parked my Peterbilt with 53' reefer a number of times.
I think it shows, that if you can do those things, along with the road portion, you are capable of meeting the demands of the road.
Boy Mowermech...you're just a bundle of encouragement, aren't you? The dock maneuver is indeed the same as backing into a campsite and the driving tests also includes driving city streets with a bunch of left and right hand turns, 4way stops, getting on and merging into freeway traffic, getting off the freeway and into city streets. Silly, pretty much useless test?....I think not!
The test is no picnic! When you get a 45' motorhome down with the city traffic, you really need to know what you are doing. In my opinion, I think ALL motor home drivers of 30' and longer should be required to have this license.
Posted By: azdryheat on 04/25/15 06:03pm
California wants to regulate, license, or tax every part of a person's life.
Oh Bull! You think Arizona doesn't have taxes? Why do people find it so necessary to bash California??? If you don't have something constructive to say, just butt out and keep it to yourself.
Again, congratulations to the OP, not many can pass that test on the first try.
I did mine about a year and a half ago and had the same tests as you. I didn't take any training, as I had been driving my rig for 6 months and felt I had plenty of experience with it. My previous coach was a 36' dp and the extra 6' really didn't bother me all that much.
I found that the pre-driving test was more involved, as the examiner was real picky about most things and not so much on others so he kept me off balance with my answers.
Anyway, congratulation on passing...it's not a trivial experience.
So what you all are saying, is CW varies -- just like every other chain enterprise.
Recently similar chain experiences: WalMart, Best Western, Applebees, Chilis, Safeway, SubWay, Delta/United/Alaska/American/AirCanada/Lufthansa. Etc ad infinitum!
Exactly. There is just no way that ANY large retailer can promise absolute perfect customer service. I can go into any of the above mentioned stores and find one or more employees that have some sort of negative attitude.
Camping World customer service is dependent upon the individual store's Manager to train, supervise, and insure that all his/her's employees provide good customer service. It is the manager's of these stores, that do not provide good customer service, that need to be replaced. I suspect that writing to the CW CEO "may" help if enough negative reports are received on a particular manager.
I can truthfully say that in the many, many times I have visited a CW store, I have never received poor customer service nor have I encountered an employee that did not provide me with prompt and courteous attention. If ever I do, I will immediately ask to see the manager and report that person. If the manager does not act upon my complaint, I will write to the CEO.
Just my thoughts on the subject..
After 7 years, I have yet to have one stolen. Since Pressure Pro sensors do not have replaceable batteries, it would be kinda silly to steal one. The thief would have no way of knowing how old it is and no one would buy a used one.
Personally, I just don't think thievery is that rampant among rv'ers....we actually kinda look out for each other.
Another popular brand is Pressure Pro.
This is almost a daily subject. I highly recommend that you do a simple search on TPMS and you'll find enough to keep you busy for the rest of the day.
Please be aware that a WDH in itself is NOT and anti-sway device. All it does is distribute some of the trailer's tongue weight to the front axle of the truck and the axles of the trailer.
However, there are some WDH's that have built-in anti-sway designed into them. The brand Equi-l-zer and Reese Dual Cam are the most popular. The WDH that your father has, may or may not have anti-sway capabilities.
There are anti-sway devices that you can add to a standard WDH to help with the sway and depending upon the truck/trailer combination, will work fairly well.
As mentioned, a perfectly set up trailer will not sway even without an anti-sway device...so it sounds like your father's problem lies with the trailer or possibly the truck. Not knowing any weights of the truck's payload capacity or the tongue weight of the trailer, I can only surmise that the tongue weight of the trailer is too "light". Highly doubtful with that size of trailer.
When you say that he "hated" the previous chain type of WDH, did he also have trailer sway with it? Why did he hate it?
As mentioned, there are many factors that can contribute to trailer sway. If you can get us some weights of both truck and trailer, it would really help us to determine a more probable cause.
What happened to pre trip inspection and checking your tire pressure during and after your travel? It would seem to me this system is designed for drivers that don't do the proper maintenance or pre trip checks.
There is a large number of RV owners who do not check their tire pressure until the TPMS sends an alert. If they have long tire valve extensions, like on rear duals, the temperature warning is almost useless. I asked one owner what he had his TPMS set for and he told me that once the pressure drops 10% below his minimum, it will send a warning. That means that he may be driving many miles with the tire pressure below the minimum pressure needed for his load, which is not good for that tire but is also now overloading his other dual tire that has to pick up the additional load.
Checking tire pressure is a hassle for those that want to make it a hassle. For me it takes a few minutes. I know that when leaving an RV park in the morning I very very seldom see anyone checking their tire pressure.
I'd like to add, that a pre-trip inspection of the tire pressure of all tires can be done from inside the coach simply by checking the TPMS. No need to go out and "thump" the tires, or checking each tire with a pressure gauge..it can all be done inside.
I do agree however, that all tires should be physically and visually checked prior to each travel day for any deformation, cracks, or other types of tires problems that a TPMS is of no help. Very important!
As for the 10% pressure loss.....at least the driver would be notified that he did indeed have a low pressure situation that would alert him to pull over and determine the problem way before the tire could heat up and blow causing untold hundreds or even thousands of $$ worth of damage that would have happened if he didn't have the TPMS to warn him.
For those of you who are dead set against a TPMS, you really need to sit back and think about it. Don't be so stubborn and too old school to accept the fact that a TPMS does provide an additional level of safety for you. The cost of a TPMS is usually cheaper than the cost of a new 22.5 tire.
There was a recent post on another forum just a day or so ago and it was brought out that after using the chlorine, drain and refill and put in a small amount of hydrogen peroxide (usually a couple of table spoons per 15 gals of water).
Another method of removing the chlorine taste is to put in a small box of baking soda with a full tank of water.
Either way, run the water mix through all faucets until odor is gone. Drain and refill with the amount of fresh water you normally keep in the tank.
Hope this helps
Those "undesirable" view can simply be covered up by lowering the front window shade.
I agree the rear facing really limits the "conversation" area as there are only a few places to sit. Utilizing the front driver's/co-pilot seats provides two more spaces.
I have also found that on the "L" shaped couches, the end of the L that slips under the rest of the couch to allow the slides to be retracted is typically very hard and very uncomfortable. Not a place where one would want to sit for an extended period of time.
So with my 90 gal capacity fresh water tank that I normally sanitize with 1 1/2 cups of chlorine (swimming pool stuff), let it set for 12 hours, drain completely and refill with fresh water...I can add a little (1/4 cup?) of hydrogen peroxide and it will kill all chlorine residue left after flushing?
I don't know about Oregon, but here in California, "house car" is still used as the legal designation in the state's vehicle laws for all motor homes. I'm not sure if there are any "exemptions" because of it.
2013 chevy equinox FWD lt 4 cyl auto 6 spd , 3777 curb weight.ready to tow, pull 1 fuse. I put the switch in to avoid pulling fuse.
Our Terrain (sister to the Equinox) is also the 4 cyl auto 6 spd but weighs in right at 4000 lbs. Not sure why I'm more than 200 lbs heavier than you. Ours is the SLT with Nav and other options, but I sure can't see where the 200 lbs is.
We've pulled our Terrain for about 20,000 miles with only one instance of the battery going dead after about 200 miles....never have figured that out. I also put in the switch in place of the fuse.
I was very hesitant about getting a GM car due to quality problems existed with previous GM vehicles, but I gotta say, this car has been problem free for almost 70,000 miles now.