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Posted: 11/03/02 02:22pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Can someone tell me if any of these brake controllers will work with Fords adjustable pedal option ,I am leaning to the Jordon.

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Posted: 11/03/02 04:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Jordan just came out with a new mounting bracket that is for adjustable pedals. It has been mounted on Ford successfully. I will be at the Jordan factory in one week to test it on my new Dodge. Looks like it should be fine. I certainly agree with you on "leaning" to the Jordan. I am moving from Prodigy to Jordan after driving a friend's truck which had the Jordan.

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A lot of people would switch if they tried the Jordan. But they have the Prodigy already and it is a very good controller as well. Hawk


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Posted: 11/03/02 06:23pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for getting back to me, I am going to go with the Jordan 20/20, I do not believe in buying junk, like they say you only get what you pay for,one more thing what are your thoughts on the Husky or LiL-Rocker hitches, I do not need a slider since I ordered my truck with a long bed, and the two 5er's Iam looking at are the Jayco and the Artic Fox at around 25feet lite weights.

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Posted: 11/12/02 07:19pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Between late delivery on the new Dodge and out of town for two weeks, the anticipated trip to Jordan Research did not occur until today. Looks like we have a problem in installing in a 2003 Dodge with adjustable pedals. They have placed the servo in a place that makes the present mounting bracket impossible to use on the Dodge.

We worked on it for about two hours and Jordan is designing a prototype bracket to try in about a week. If all goes well, he will have it produced. Total time to be ready to ship is about six weeks.

To have a Jordan, I will wait.

Bob

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am i missing something here???? is the question about how and where to hang the brake controller or where to hook it up???? don't the new trucks ordered with the factory tow pkg come with the "plug and play" hookup??? since that is responsive to the "cold" side of the stop light switch, how would the position of the brake pedal have any effect???? the brake pedal still works the stoplight switch regardless of where the pedals are positioned.... maybe i do not understand the question....help me out here please...am looking at 2003 dodge and thought the tow pgk was like the earlier ones...also thought the ford tow pkg was also like the earlier years...but what the heck do i know....good luck and have fun...let me know....

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Posted: 11/13/02 09:32am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The Jordon controller is cable driven, not totally electronic like the Prodigy.

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Posted: 11/13/02 12:58pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Both Jordan and Prodigy controllers are fully electronic devices that use mechanical input.

Jordan uses a cable connected to the brake pedal arm.

I believe Prodigy uses a Torsion Bar/Bending Bar principle with a capacitive circuit to provide deceleration detection. This is why it is sensitive to position between 0 & 70 degrees vertically and should/must be horizontal side to side - at least per their instructions.

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Posted: 11/13/02 05:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Davea,
As stated above, the great feature of the Jordan is that it monitors your brake pedal and responds according to how hard you are pushing on the brake. It is not connected at all to the brake light. It uses three wires only, not four. This feature gives fantastic control of the trailer braking. Jordan also monitors the condition of your braking circuits of the trailer to alert you to possible malfunctions of the electric.

Love the adjustable pedals on my new Dodge. Really neat when you are 1' taller than the CFO (wife).

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The manufacturer of the Prodigy does not mention in their literature the nature of the "modern aerospace technology" that they use to detect deceleration. See [URL] http://www.bargman.com/instructions/7687DProdigyTowCard.PDF [URL]
Basic information on accelerometers used in this type of application is given in [URL] http://www.Memsic.com/pdfs/accel%20primer.pdf [URL]
Some accelerometers used to measure automotive acceleration (or conversely; deceleration) are described in [URL] http://www.stresshq.com/newsletter/Memsic702.htm [URL]
The operation and sensitivity of one of these accelerometers are described in [URL] http://www.analog.com/ProductSelection/pdf/Preview/ADXL202_10_b.gif [URL]
A microscopic picture of an accelerometer and it's microscopic "beams" is given in [URL] http:/www.analog.com/technology/mems/accelerometers/index.html [URL] You might refer to these microscopic tines as "torsion bars" or "bending bars", but I do not believe that is an apt term.



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