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DRFaulk

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All,

I am new to the forum and I am in the market for a generator (or two). I have definitely narrowed it down to either 2 EU2000s or 1 EU3000. Right now, I am swaying towards the 2000s as they are much lighter to move around.

Here are my questions:
-What are the maintenance schedules like for each of these generators?
-I read that the 2000 uses less than a quart of oil. What does the 3000 use?
-Are valve adjustments required? If so, number of hours and type of valves (i.e. shim, etc)
-Lastly, what are their utility cycles? Limits on run-time? Thanks in advance.



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PULLTOY and NHBOB will be here soon with accurate info but I have had a 2000 for awhile and just bought another so here it goes. I just change the oil and clean the the air filter once in awile. After 100 hrs Honda calls for a spark arrestor clean/valve adjustment/fuel tank and filter clean(yeah, right)
The 3000, with more doo-dads( bat & starter) probably has a longer list. The EU2000i has less than 1/2 quart oil capacity (.42qt). Me thinks the Hondas will put up with little or no maintenance because my brother has a 3000 and he never takes care of nuthin' and runs good. IMHO


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I remember my EU3000is needs it's first oil change at 25 hours, and every 100 hours there after. Takes less than a quart. Just be sure to mix STABIL into your gas can you use to fuel with. You never know how long that last fill-up will remain in the generator.


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I have the 3000 too bought it used,thing had only a few hours on it if that. Ran it 5 days about 12 hrs a day and changed the oil , think book says around 100 hours plug looked brand new changed it as well and did the air filter at the same time . the air filter has a pre -filter spongewhich if you keep that clean it helps out with the paper filter.

They are bigger than the 1000 and 2000 but then again I don't think they will run off as easily either.

Had to put a hard start kit on my ac for it to pull that , seem the guys that make the coleman AC's found a way to cut cost a few years back and they didn't put start capacitors on a bunch of the units .

They are all fairly quite and you wont be dissapointed in any of the honda products.
Just MHO.




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For the 2000:

Oil: Change after first month or 20 hrs and every 100 hours after that. (I think 50 is a more realistic change interval in light of the lack of a filter.)

Air cleaner: Every 3 mos. or 50 hours... clean it.

Spark plug: chekc every 6 mos./100 hours. Replace Every year/200 hrs. (I've never replaced a generator sparkplug....)

Spark arrestor: Clean every 6 mos/100 hrs.

Valve clearance: Check every year or 200 hours.

Combustion chamber: Clean every 300 hours. (?)

Fuel tank: Clean every 6 mos. or 100 hrs. (?)

Fuel line: check every 2 years.


It holds .42 quarts of oil.
There are no limits on run time listed in the manual. Don't know what you mean by "utility cycles." The valve clearance specs are listed, but not what the adjustment method is. NHBob has a service manual I think and can fill that one in. I would be very surprised if it was the shim method. I think that's pretty rare in Honda aircooled engines. (CBX excepted :-)).

Don't have a clue about the 3000 and we'll have to wait for someone with that manual.






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Ok, Got out my EU3000is manual . . .

Honda EU300is Maintenance Schedule

Engine Oil - First change at 1st Month or 20 Hrs. Then every 6 mo or 100 hrs.

Air cleaner - clean every 3 mo or 100 hrs. Replace paper filter every year or 300 hrs.

Sediment cup - clean every 6 mo or 100 hrs.

Spark plug - clean/adj every 6 mo or 100 hrs.
Replace every yr or 300 hrs. Plug: BPR5ES (NGK) W16EPR-U (DENSO) Gap: .028-.031"

Spark arrester - clean every 6 mo or 100 hrs.

Valve clearance - check/adj every yr or 300 hrs. Refer to shop manual or Honda dealer. IN:0.15mm cold EX:0.20mm cold

Fuel tank and filter - clean every yr or 300 hrs.

Fuel line - check every 2 yrs - replace as necessary.

Oil capacity - 0.58 US Qts API Service SF/SG 10W-30

Gas capacity - 3.43 US gal Unleaded, 86 octane or higher. Ethanol-10%, MTBE-15%, Methanol-5% are approved Oxygenated fuels.


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Now wintering in AZ, so Don't have my manual immediately at hand, still need to go remote (IE walk down to the computer center here at Tower Pt, Mesa AZ) to get my every other day DSL fix; Sprint PCS/Vision not being ready for prime time, best I presently get at the rig is 9.6K, not even adequate for email, and far from NAV updates/websurfing and the forum. But I brought the manual and will consult but doubt there's anything significant beyond Pulltoy's post.
Remarkably trouble-free and low maint. is what I'd say.
BTW, went to the Quartzite gathereing, saw the Yamahas; 2800 is close to Honda noise level, and slightly different pitch, bit more of a plastic sound but not objectionable. But also not parallel-able.

*This Message was edited on 24-Jan-03 06:31 PM by NH_Bob*



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All,

Thanks for your replies, it has been helpful. Concerning utility cycle, I was referring to how long you can run them continuously. I know you have to shut them down to fuel. Can you re-start immediately or do you wait for them to cool? I agree with PullToy that 50 hours between oil changes is more reasonable given no filter. My daughter's Honda 90 ATV has the same 100 hour requirement, which is too long (IMO).

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I just shut them down, fill them up and fire them off again. YMMV. The manual's downstairs and probable advises to let them cool before filling. Most things do.

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OK, here's the Official Honda Shop Manual (#61Z0700) skinny on certain specifications:
Valve clearance: IN 0.15+- 0.02mm; OUT 0.20 +- 0.02mm
Valve Springs: (free height) 25.8mm (both)
SparkPlug Gap: 0.6-0.7mm (0.024-0.028 in)
Ignition coil: Primary 0.7-1.1 ohm, secondary 12-21K ohm
Ign. Pulse Gen: Air gap 0.2-0.7mm @ 300-360 ohm
Valve clearance adj. requires special 3mm wrench for the adj. screw, they say. I say the entire procedure to get at the adjustment looks like no fun. Especially at the "every year or 200 hours" interval.

Schedule:
Oil change @ 6 mo or 100 hours
Air Cleaner @ 3mo/50 hrs max
plugs @ 1 yr or 200 hrs
spark arrester @ 6mo/100 hrs clean
combustion chamber @300 hrs clean
valve clearance @ 1yr/200 hrs check-adjust
fuel tank/filter @ 6mo/100 hrs clean
fuel line @2 yrs check/replace

so sayeth the shop manual.

Bob

*This Message was edited on 24-Jan-03 07:49 PM by NH_Bob*


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