What's the difference between a short Class C and a B+. I have seen some B+'s that look exactly like the 18-20 ft Class C's that were made a few years ago. What exactly makes a B+ a B+ and not a Class C.
Steve
Steve & Donalee 2010 Heartland North Trail 28RLS 1994 27ft Winnebago Brave 2008 Lincoln Mark LT 2005 PT Cruiser Convertible 1998 Honda Gold Wing GL1500 SE
It has to have a cab-over bed to be a C. B+'s have a body built by the MH maker, lke a C, but they don't have a cab-over bed. They'll usually have either the entertainment center, or storage, in a smaller cab-over.
There are, or course, all kinds of exceptions, but this is pretty much it. BTW, there's a similar thread on the first page of the C forum right now, if you'd care to look.
Jim, "Liberal arts major; will think for money!"
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Not trying to be argumentative, but (Technically Speaking) a cabover bed does not make a Class C a Class C, and the lack of one does not make it something else.
(Technically Speaking) There is no such thing as a B+. The term is a sales tool, not an official designation in use by any RVIA or anyone else.
(Technically Speaking) A Roadtrek 200 is a Class C. Anything built on a Cutaway Van Chassis is a Class C. But I doubt you'll ever hear anyone at Home and Park call is a Class C motorhome.
But, as mentioned in previous post, it has (thru the use as a "sales" term) become popular to refer to Class C'c that don't have a cabover bed as a B+..... Anyone that's been building them that way for a while, such as Chinook, still correctly refer to their rigs as C's.
Most manufacturers tend to think the designation B+ avoids some kinda perceived stigma associated with the C designation (nope, I don't understand)
I hate (or should I say strongly dislike) salepeople and manufacturers who intentionally try to mislead consumers thru the use of confusing and meaningless designations.
Some salespeople say the cabover makes a rig a C.
Some salespeople say dual wheels make a rig a C.
If it on a cutaway van chassis, it is a C, Period!
On an even better lie, call a half dozen Winnebago dealers and ask what Class a Rialta is..... some say A... some say B... some say C.
Yes, a Rialta is a C, because of the cutaway VW chassis.
I gotta get into this, we have a 1985 Champion Transtar on a G-30 van with dual wheels. Yahoo classic B van group calls this a B.
This MH looks like the Trail Lite B+ except is taller by about a foot.
The Trail Lite paint job has B+ right on the side of the body, so I think that the factory must think that it`s a B+? I thought I was buying a class C but now I don`t know if it is a C- or a B+ or a C without an overhead bed. WHOOOOOHOOOOO it goes campin anyhow.
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on Chev G30 van, 350 w/4.10 drw 23 feet long
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Class As can be defined as an RV that is built on, or as an integral part of, a self-propelled motorized chassis.
The conventional Class A is one whose living unit has been entirely constructed on a bare, specially designed motor vehicle chassis.
But what differentiates the Class C from the Class A is the unit's attached cab section and its Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of 6,500 pounds or more. On the Class C, the RV manufacturer completes the body section containing the living area and attaches it to the cab section.
Class B The van camper is defined as a panel type truck to which the RV manufacturer adds any two of the following conveniences: sleeping, kitchen and toilet facilities, 100-volt hookup, fresh water storage, city water hookup, and a top extension to provide more headroom.
... and while I'm thinking about it, as to wet baths or dry and overhead storage pod or extended cabover bed - Born Free also calls 'em C's regardless.
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edited 12/16/03 05:56am by ARcruiser *
The RVIA (Recreation Vehicle Industry Association) defines as follows... RVIA website
The type A is entirely constructed on a bare, specially designed motor vehicle chassis.
The type B motorhome is narrower than other RVs because it utilizes the space within the existing van body. However, most are equipped with a raised roof, and sometimes dropped floors providing full stand-up room.
The type C is built on an automotive manufactured van frame with an attached cab section. The type C motorhome usually provides a sleeping bunk atop the cab in addition to a bedroom in the back. When not in use, this overhead compartment can also be used as a storage area.
As a sales tool, dealers and manufacturers can call 'em what they will - but from a basis of construction standpoint there is no such thing as a B+.
IMO, Roadtrek 200 is a Class C due to being built on a Cutaway Van chassis.
IMO, Pleasure-Way Dodge Excels are B's, even tho' widened, due to retaining the original body walls, doors, etc.
I have not decided how I feel about the Pleasure-Way Ford Excels and the upcoming Roadtrek 210. The are not on a Cutaway chassis, but the manufactureres are discarding the majority of the bodies and replacing with fiberglass.... but they are retaining the rear and at least one factory side door and the associated framework. To me, these two vehicles are the only ones that might deserve the designation of B+.... due to their truly hybrid nature.
And, we all know you can have a B with a cabover. Just look at the older Falcon, Horizon, Coachman and Airstream B's. They utilize the existing van body but also have a raised roof with cabover bed.
Just got my new issue of "Highways".... there is a Coach House ad for the Platinum - which most salesmen would call a "B+".... does Coach House call the Platinum a B+? Nope.
They call it a "personal sized Class C".
Most appropriate phrasing I have heard so far, and not a bit misleading. Two thumbs up to Coach House! BTW, these are the "elite" motorhomes in the category.... owners and RVCG love 'em. Right up there with Chinook in quality (and almost as high in price).
I noticed that Gulfstream calls the BT a B in their ads. I thought that the insurance would be lower for a B than for a C. I called Progressive ins and found out that the B is $275 MORE. I think the insurance people assume that a B can be used more as a daily driver.
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