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mandofrog

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Posted: 07/10/06 08:53pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry if this is really dumb but I'm thinking about converting an E350 RB into a basic, simple camper but don't know a thing about it. Are there books or websites that explain the process and all the do's and don'ts?


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Posted: 07/10/06 09:55pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not much in the way of "how to" that I have seen.

Step 1, of course, pick a chassis.

Step 2, convert it!

Naaah... seriously, you have to consider what you want in your rig.

For me:
- Pop-Top roof by Sportsmobile
- 3rd seat behind driver for the Little Man
- big window beside said seat
- dinette converts to bed at rear of van
- windows each side of dinette
- bit 'o cabinetry between 3rd seat and dinette
- bit 'o cabinetry across from aforementioned cabinetry

Gotta have a 12v system - isolator, charger gizmos and breaker gizmos and wiring stuff and battery, etc - I know nuthin' about it... but I'd want a 12v/110v refrigerator in one of the cabinets and it's gotta have power... not to mention a few lights, etc.

Refrigerator, 12v / 110v
Microwave
Air Conditioner, either a window unit or portable

Now I need my wiring to encompass integration of 110v shore power

simple water system - 10 gallons fresh, 10 gallons gray with pump (probably a manual pump at faucet)

Porti-Potti

No shower

No propane - heat with ceramic heater, dont need a cooktop for our use but somebody else might cook outside on a Coleman and no water heater (but if we wanted hot water we would go with fast recovery electric).

It all starts with a van, roof modification, install windows, install rough in wiring and plumbing, install base floor, etc.

I MAY do my next rig in this manner....

Four good places to look at for ideas on what is involved:
Fergus the Magic Bus
Ultimate Windsurfing Van
Dan's Sprinter
Join the Yahoo GTRV Westy forum and look in Photos at Terry's rig He's building just about exactly what I'd wanna build and I think it looks great!

You may even visit Pleasure-Way's web site and watch the video of them building a fully featured Class B.

GOOD LUCK!

* This post was edited 07/11/06 04:32am by ARcruiser *


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Posted: 07/10/06 10:09pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This web site is for converting a bus, but it has several books, and links about doing conversions. Might give you some ideas.
http://www.rv-busconversions.com/

Here is the link to How Gregg's 1992 Chevy conversion.
http://members.aol.com/howgregg/page7.htm

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Posted: 07/11/06 06:49am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wow, thanks for the cool websites. Can't wait till I get home from work tonight and can start checking them out.

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Posted: 07/11/06 07:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I suspect there's some folks in big RV's who would consider a full-house, all-options Roadtrek a "basic, simple camper" . You've got some good advice and references in the posts above.

I've given the DIY idea a lot of thought, a few times. My take? Think about what you want to do in / around the camper, in what environment, with how many people (probably not totally plan-able, esp. if this is your 1st, but try). Boondocking? State / federal CG's? Full hook-up CG's only? Extended travel? What DIY skills & equipment you have, and what budget, will be part of the picture, too.

Then think about what amenities you consider 'necessary' for this ... standing room, A/C, heat, toilet, cooking, shower, etc. With a 350 chassis, you can pretty much have it all if you want it. But each added amenity will require support systems, which may permit more amenities.... As a for instance, a kitchen sink requires some kind of pump and supply tank, and a gray water tank and dump plumbing; but now you've got the systems to support a cold-water shower, too, if you locate the gray tank correctly for shared drains.

I think most of us agree that standing room is the first priority on the list, tho' home-builts sometimes get by without. Adding the top later may take extra work. Decide if you want a pop-top or a hard top.. pop top is great for CG's and will fit into many garages, but may present sound / heat problems overnighting in a rest area or parking lot.
Visit the SMB, PW, and RT web sites to see what's possible, and how the pros do it. Then go to a dealer, or find a B on a used car lot, to really soak it up... take lots of pictures. Just remember that each 'feature' that you see has hidden plumbing, wiring, or both associated with it.

Stop by your local 'big RV dealer', and ask for a copy of their supply catalog; should be about 600 pgs. of all RV stuff, and will give you a wonderful perspective on what's available. Between just that catalog and Home Depot, you could build a very nice B.

And there's not a thing wrong with the 'evolve-it-as-you-go' approach either. Start with a foam pad, a sleeping bag, an ice chest, a lawn chair, and a few cardboard boxes... I once upon a time spent a fair number of happy nights in a shell on a Toyota 4x4 pickup that way... even had a (candle) chandelier . You've got a lot more room and possibilities.

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I have honestly considered buying an old 70's Toyota Chinook and putting the camper on my '89 Toyoya xtracab v6, dimensions permitting.... but common sense always prevails and that's one project that has never gotten off the ground.

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Posted: 07/11/06 10:41am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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My 'fantasy project' for years has been mating my SR5 4WD chassis with one of the late 80's - mid 90's ~21' mini-C's on a Toyota chassis, or just buying one and stuffing it with the 4WD components. I'm dure it's been done, but I suspect it's a lot of work... somethng I grow more and more adverse to in my recliner years

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I started with a 1994 Dodge low top van, which had an "electric" bed in back--which was a good king sized bunk. I cut a hole in the roof and installed a "Fantastic Fan". Next a porti potty, with bungi to hold it down. I already had a Norcold 100 lb capacity chest freezer/refigerator. I put in a cabinate from Lowes, two doors and two drawers, simple flat wood/laminate top. Put in a sink, and 6 gallon jerry can for fresh water, with a hand pump and a 6 gallon plastic can for Grey Water. Put in a microwave, and hot plate. 1500 Watt Inverter with a 130 amp hour AGM battery for 110 Volts when on the road. Finished it off with a flat pannel LCD TV. I used it for a year--and decided I had to have standing head room--so for $7500 found a used Road Trek which was fairly easy to fix up and I am much happier. The lack of head room was the major issue!


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I wish I could find the picture, but it goes one step beyond the redneck camper. It was a chopped two-ton chassis rigged to pull a 5'r, but the trailer was a flat bed with TWO TCs, a Jeep and three or four ATV's.

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Towing a boat behind the 5'r.

My Sprinter converstion project keeps getting stalled. Maybe if someone trashed the old C, I'd get more interested.

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