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tiptoe tommy

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Posted: 09/18/07 12:29am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Personally, I believe that global warming is real and that human development since the industrial age has greatly contributed to the general decline in our planet's health.

When I go camp in the beautiful places close to me in the Pacific Northwest, I feel a sense of responsibility to preserve nature. I am a realist and I don't expect everyone to change their entire lives right away. But little things can help us save tax dollars and the environment. I love it when campgrounds offer recycling. I like it when big rig owners are judicious and minimal in their generator use. Having an ethic of trying to leave a place better than you found it--all these things are a mindset that helps one look at simple ways to reduce their footprint on the environment.

I think people do themselves a disservice by falling into political camps on the extreme on this issue. Why not just do what you can to help save our quality of life?


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Tip toe Tommy:

I second that.

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I can live with the 6/10th of a degree average increase in air temperature the USA has experienced in the last 125 yrs.In 1,000 yrs that would be less than a 5 degree increase in temperature.

I agree the earth is slowly warming,just don't agree with the opinions that man is causing it.


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Well, I saw a segment on the Today show talking about how the frozen tundra in Siberia is thawing and archeologists are having a field day finding all kinds of Wooly Mammoth bones, bones from some kind of ancient tiger and other animals. Now, it seems to me that at some point in time Siberia had to be warm enough to support this kind of flora and fauna before the big freeze. Could it be that this was a natural cycle where there was global warming that created conditions for the existence
of all these life forms or was it some dumb cavemen (sorry ladies, cavepersons) that messed everything up by burning something in their caves that created green houses gases that in turn started another cycle of global warming. Boy, I'm confused. (Of course, then there is the problem of what caused the next ice age that froze Siberia solid.)


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lwmuddy wrote:

Since I am in tune with animals and feel that they have better sense of what is coming and after talking at length with some local Beavers and Gophers, "their feeling is that this winter will be one of the worst on record for the Mid West and the North East."

Well now, you see, this is where the GW crowd has you covered. They haven't said that "Global" means evenly distributed. I have it on good authority from my friends the rattlesnakes, scorpions, pack rats and desert mice that in the Southwest this will be the hottest winter on record - so see, there's no way out.

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tiptoe tommy wrote:

Personally, I believe that global warming is real and that human development since the industrial age has greatly contributed to the general decline in our planet's health.

When I go camp in the beautiful places close to me in the Pacific Northwest, I feel a sense of responsibility to preserve nature. I am a realist and I don't expect everyone to change their entire lives right away. But little things can help us save tax dollars and the environment. I love it when campgrounds offer recycling. I like it when big rig owners are judicious and minimal in their generator use. Having an ethic of trying to leave a place better than you found it--all these things are a mindset that helps one look at simple ways to reduce their footprint on the environment.

I think people do themselves a disservice by falling into political camps on the extreme on this issue. Why not just do what you can to help save our quality of life?


Well said.

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Interesting program on cable lately discussing the theory that about 600 million years ago the earth was completely covered by ice and snow, what they referred to as the "snowball earth".

It would normally be an irreversible condition, except that volcanic action released carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, gradually raising the temperature and melting the glaciers from the equator out.

Quite simply, we are looking at several dozen pieces of a 1000 piece puzzle and trying to figure out what the picture is.

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I'm looking forward to global warming.

Picture it. A boondocking RV site on the beach, in a grove of palm trees. Warm breezes wafting thru my campsite, dressed in my shorts and t-shirt and sipping a cold beer watching the waves lap at the shore of the Arctic Ocean while the northern lights dance overhead.

I can hardly wait...


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