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skipnchar

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Posted: 11/10/07 07:03am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'd think it depends on what you're DOING with the truck. If you're towing something heavy the PSD is the way to go. The ratings for the Tundra for towing are pretty impressive but checking on their web site I find you cannot get both the payload package and the towing package in the same truck. This makes tongue weight and pin weight real limiting factory with the truck. Consumer Reports has down rated the truck but in SPITE of that "ringing endorsement" I'd be unable to tow my current trailer due to tongue weight and cargo restrictions. Good luck / Skip


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outdoors1 wrote:

Iam relly torn between the Tundra and my Powerstroke.I test drove one last week and they are really really nice.We bought the diesel for slidein or TT,but that never happened so I don't really need all this truck.But Good Lord I love the 7.3.The Stroker runs like a Champ just wondering if anyone can help me with what they think of the Tundra?If you went from gas to diesel and why you made the switch.We tent camp and a couple of cabin rentals a year.Long drives 4 to 11 hours.I got the go a head from the Boss.New 07 Tundra 27,000 dlrs. out the door.4x4 sr5 longbox doublecab.So can somone help me go to the darkside? Safely.
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You're comparing two very different trucks. They're both good trucks so it comes down to what you're gonna use it for. My Tundra's been great so far but I'm wondering why you feel the need to change, unless you simply want to go to a gas truck.


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Posted: 11/10/07 09:10am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Is going to a Toyota or back to a gasser the dark side? If I gave up camping and no longer needed my TV I would definitely go back to a half ton gasser. Which one I am not sure. I would look at them all keeping in mind what I needed to do with the pick up. For me it would be a daily driver, grocery getter and Home Depot hauler with off road capabilities. And it would have to look good. So I would be looking at a bright red standard cab, short box, 4x4 with a 4" lift. As much as I like power due to gas prices I would opt for a mid size V8 and auto tranny. That's just me. You need to sit down and list all your possible and future needs for a PU. Drive them all. Pick the one you will enjoy the most as we are not going to be making the payments. Another important part of an enjoyable owner's experience is the dealer. Talk to other customers at the dealers if you have no previous experience. JMHO Good Luck and happy shopping.


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Posted: 11/10/07 11:49am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

All good advice so far. If you still think you MIGHT want a TC or to pull a 5er, don't get the Tundra, as payload capacity will really limit your options. If you intend to stick with tenting, you will want to pay attention to the payload capacity (the model you're looking at is probably more than capable for what you need). If you might get a trailer, be sure to have the towing package.

We ended up with the Tundra after test-driving both it and the F150. The Tundra's ride was MUCH more comfortable, IMO. However, the most comfortable long-trip driving vehicle we have ever owned, for me, was our 1988 Dodge Caravan.


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Posted: 11/10/07 08:48pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am wondering if you priced the 4.7 engine at the price you quoted? The 5.7 engine actually is rated better in the 2wheel drive, and the same in 4X4. From the tests I have seen the 4.7 is no slouch, but the 6 speed is only available with the larger engine.


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Thanks, Daniel and to everyone who has responded to this post. I thought the 4.7 was cheaper but right now I can get 5000dlrs off of a new 5.7 4x4 which is nice in Wisconsin.The truck list for 33,326 msrp down to 31,356 minus 5000 is 26,356 is this a good price? The 4.7 has a timing belt and 5.7 has the timing chain.So no timing belt change.The fuel mileage is within 1-2 miles per gallon.The 5.7 32 vavle is a Gem of a motor very very smooth no hesitation in the giddyup area.I must admit I have not look at the big three for offerings and I should but this Toyota as everything a guy would need in a half ton I hope.I am not trying to compare the Psd to a half ton just want to know what people thank of the new Tundra.If you have a tundra please tell me why and what it replace and most of all how do you like it.Oh and how is you mileage?
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Posted: 11/11/07 06:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think you just want a new truck. If your present ride is in good mecnanical condition, you should keep it. The difference you pay would buy fuel for the rest of your life.





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Posted: 11/11/07 06:53am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

skipnchar wrote:

Consumer Reports has down rated the truck but in SPITE of that "ringing endorsement" I'd be unable to tow my current trailer due to tongue weight and cargo restrictions. Good luck / Skip


Skip is exactly correct, Consumer Reports has removed the 4X4 Tundra from it's "recommended" list of vehicles as owners have rated it's reliability as "worse than average. If you want a Tundra, the 2WD Tundra is still rated at "much better than average" (sounds like issues with the 4WD components).

As I recall, the 1/2 ton 4X4 products from GM, Chrysler & Ford (with the exception of Cadillac pick-up) rated "average" and garner a "recommended" status.

The 4X4 Titan and the Cadillac pick-up are the only 1/2 4X4 to garner a "much worse than average" rating.

FWIW, Consumer Reports rates Toyata the 3rd most reliable brand in the US, behind #1 Honda and #2 Subaru. Toyota has 3 models, including the 4X4 Tundra and one version of the Camry, that are rated "worse than average".

I have filled out these questionaires online for the last 3 years, they cover amost every major purchase you will make. As far as vehicles are concerned, they ask what make/model you own, how long you have owned it, have you had trouble, and if so, of what nature. They look at the average of ALL responses to determine the life expectancy of every major component or system and grade all vehicles against that standard.

Thousands of people travelling millions of miles have given feedback on what they drive, the accumulation of that much raw data can beneficial to anyone shopping for a reliable vehicle.

FWIW, your 7.3L PSD is a highly desirable vehcile which, if in good shape, should be easy to sell outight for top dollar. If I was not towing, as you are not, I would purchase a 1/2 ton gasser for the smoother ride, easier service, and abundance of fuel islands.

Only you can determine if a trade is in your future.

JMHO

* This post was edited 11/12/07 07:30am by mr61impala *


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Outdoors1:
You have an excellent offer. I paid 29+ for mine three months ago. I may have more expensive tires, and have the towing mirror, but otherwise probably the same as your offer. I have yet to tow with it - am planning about a 100 mile trip next week to the Texas Hill country, which will give an indication of it's ability to climb hills, and curvy roads. I was there yesterday solo, and averaged 17 in mostly highway driving with cruise about 2/3 the time. I can actually get about 1mpg better if I drive w/o cruise and use the computer to tell me how fast to go. I expect with more miles (I have 3000), I will get better - also w/o air. I replaced a 2002 1500HD chevy 4X4, which is actually a little sturdier truck, but not nearly as strong engine. I am trading the beefier frame and springs for power and the 6 speed. Also, the Chevy was getting pretty high miles, so I wanted to have a new vehicle to ease into retirement with - hence the decision. My in town mileage is also around 16, so that is a big benefit. I saw the issues with Tundras, and frankly am not thrilled with the noise it makes in 4 wheel drive, but my Chevy was at least as bad, especially binding when turning. The drive train has a 60,000 warranty, so I am not going to obsess over the possible repair issues. My assumption is that the problems already noted will appear long before I am out of warranty, and given the view of Toyota on Quality Control, if they have to make a major repair, it will only happen once!

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