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PSDExcursion

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Yeah, all this about a 2008 Toyota Sequoia w/5.7L V8 is just rumor.


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PSDExcursion wrote:

Yeah, all this about a 2008 Toyota Sequoia w/5.7L V8 is just rumor.


Yeah I know what you mean, just like directly comparing the Toyota 4.30 axle ratio to the Nissan 3.36 has any meaning at all. Only a idiot would do that.

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cillyone wrote:

PSDExcursion wrote:

Yeah, all this about a 2008 Toyota Sequoia w/5.7L V8 is just rumor.


Yeah I know what you mean, just like directly comparing the Toyota 4.30 axle ratio to the Nissan 3.36 has any meaning at all. Only a idiot would do that.

Right, axle ratios have no meaning. Are you high ?

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PSDExcursion wrote:

cillyone wrote:

PSDExcursion wrote:

Yeah, all this about a 2008 Toyota Sequoia w/5.7L V8 is just rumor.


Yeah I know what you mean, just like directly comparing the Toyota 4.30 axle ratio to the Nissan 3.36 has any meaning at all. Only a idiot would do that.

Right, axle ratios have no meaning. Are you high ?



Straight as and arrow and intelligent enough to look at the entire picture, unlike some others.

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2008 Armada
Drivetrain 4-Wheel Drive
Trans Type 5
Trans Description Cont. Automatic w/OD
First Gear Ratio (:1) 3.83
Second Gear Ratio (:1) 2.37
Third Gear Ratio (:1) 1.52
Fourth Gear Rato (:1) 1.00
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1) 0.83
Reverse Ratio (:1) 2.61
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1) 3.36
Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High 1.00
Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low 2.60

2008 Toyota Sequoia
Drivetrain: 4-Wheel DriveTrans Type: 6Trans Description Cont.: Automatic w/ODFirst Gear Ratio (:1): 3.33Second Gear Ratio (:1): 1.96Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.35Fourth Gear Rato (:1): 1.00Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.73Sixth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.59Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.06Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High: 2.62Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low: 1.00 Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)4.30

2008 Armada has a 12.8688 overall 1st gear ratio (3.83x3.36) and a 2.788 overall 5th gear ratio (3.83x3.36) that is not as low as the 2008 Toyota Sequoia's 14.319 (3.33x4.30) or as high as the Sequoia's 2.537 (.59x4.30) overall 6th gear ratio that gives the 2008 Toyota Sequoia the edge at both ends.

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2008 Armada
Drivetrain 4-Wheel Drive
Trans Type 5
Trans Description Cont. Automatic w/OD
First Gear Ratio (:1) 3.83
Second Gear Ratio (:1) 2.37
Third Gear Ratio (:1) 1.52
Fourth Gear Rato (:1) 1.00
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1) 0.83
Reverse Ratio (:1) 2.61
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1) 3.36
Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High 1.00
Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low 2.60

2008 Toyota Sequoia
Drivetrain: 4-Wheel DriveTrans Type: 6Trans Description Cont.: Automatic w/ODFirst Gear Ratio (:1): 3.33Second Gear Ratio (:1): 1.96Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.35Fourth Gear Rato (:1): 1.00Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.73Sixth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.59Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.06Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High: 2.62Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low: 1.00 Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)4.30

2008 Armada has a 12.8688 overall 1st gear ratio (3.83x3.36) and a 2.788 overall 5th gear ratio (3.83x3.36) that is not as low as the 2008 Toyota Sequoia's 14.319 (3.33x4.30) or as high as the Sequoia's 2.537 (.59x4.30) overall 6th gear ratio that gives the 2008 Toyota Sequoia the edge at both ends.



Very good!! There might be hope for you after all!!
Who would have thought a 6 speed in a 4 year newer design than a 5 speed might have a overall gearing advantage? Wow, what a revelation! Gee, I wonder if this trend of a manufacturer producing a newer, more improved vehicle than the other brands older model will continue? It certainly is refreshing to see when pushed that you are capable of actually presenting the complete data to show the bottom line is it is really a 4.10 ratio vs a 4.30 instead of the transmission reduction/misleading 3.36, congratulations!!!

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First Impressions:
Arguably the most useful, most refined and easiest-to-drive full-size SUV ever built, the 2008 Toyota Sequoia will keep a large family from being forced to adapt to a fleet of Priuses.

We can't argue with that choice. Not only does the 5.7-liter have impressive specs — 381 hp at 5,600 rpm and 401 lb-ft at 3,600 rpm — it manages to help disguise the second-generation Sequoia's massive weight gain, some 500-600 pounds (depending on the trim level). This big V8 and its six-speed automatic transmission add only 50 more pounds over the 4.7-liter and its five-speed auto.

Toyota claims a two-wheel-drive Sequoia 5.7 will hit 60 mph in 7 seconds flat. After driving around in a fully loaded, four-wheel-drive Platinum model, we believe it. Low-end engine torque is abundant, and passing maneuvers come and go in an instant. Exhaust tuning is quieter for the Sequoia than the Tundra, and it leaves you with the impression that the big V8 isn't even breaking a sweat.

Plus, the six-speed automatic always seems to be on its game with gear selection, something we noticed even while towing a 24-foot boat. We scarcely noticed the load, though with a gross combined weight of 12,565 pounds (against a 17,280-pound GCWR) and flat roads with a speed limit of 55 mph, this wasn't an extreme test.

Fuel economy is not as terrible as you'd think. The 5.7-liter V8 is the more efficient option, thanks to its dual variable valve timing (the 4.7-liter only has variable intake valves) and extra overdrive gear. In 2WD form, the Sequoia has a rating of 14 mpg city/19 mpg highway — second only to the Tahoe (14 mpg/20 mpg). The 4x4 Sequoia's 13 mpg/18 mpg rating is better than all its SUV rivals except the Tahoe (14 mpg city/19 mpg highway) and GM's two-mode hybrids (20 mpg city/20 mpg highway).

Toyota Changes the Rules in the Full-Size Class — Again


In addition to helping you avoid embarrassing parking lot incidents, the backup camera can assist with trailer hook-up.

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First Impressions:
Arguably the most useful, most refined and easiest-to-drive full-size SUV ever built, the 2008 Toyota Sequoia will keep a large family from being forced to adapt to a fleet of Priuses.

We can't argue with that choice. Not only does the 5.7-liter have impressive specs — 381 hp at 5,600 rpm and 401 lb-ft at 3,600 rpm — it manages to help disguise the second-generation Sequoia's massive weight gain, some 500-600 pounds (depending on the trim level). This big V8 and its six-speed automatic transmission add only 50 more pounds over the 4.7-liter and its five-speed auto.

Toyota claims a two-wheel-drive Sequoia 5.7 will hit 60 mph in 7 seconds flat. After driving around in a fully loaded, four-wheel-drive Platinum model, we believe it. Low-end engine torque is abundant, and passing maneuvers come and go in an instant. Exhaust tuning is quieter for the Sequoia than the Tundra, and it leaves you with the impression that the big V8 isn't even breaking a sweat.

Plus, the six-speed automatic always seems to be on its game with gear selection, something we noticed even while towing a 24-foot boat. We scarcely noticed the load, though with a gross combined weight of 12,565 pounds (against a 17,280-pound GCWR) and flat roads with a speed limit of 55 mph, this wasn't an extreme test.

Fuel economy is not as terrible as you'd think. The 5.7-liter V8 is the more efficient option, thanks to its dual variable valve timing (the 4.7-liter only has variable intake valves) and extra overdrive gear. In 2WD form, the Sequoia has a rating of 14 mpg city/19 mpg highway — second only to the Tahoe (14 mpg/20 mpg). The 4x4 Sequoia's 13 mpg/18 mpg rating is better than all its SUV rivals except the Tahoe (14 mpg city/19 mpg highway) and GM's two-mode hybrids (20 mpg city/20 mpg highway).

Toyota Changes the Rules in the Full-Size Class — Again


In addition to helping you avoid embarrassing parking lot incidents, the backup camera can assist with trailer hook-up.


Wow, that is amazing, 0-60 in 7 seconds flat which happens to be an identical time the 305 hp 2004 Armada did in Truck Trends road test.
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/suv/163_0312_2004_nissan_pathfinder_armada/index.html

And guess what? Car & Driver also got the exact same results, 7 seconds flat, must be that darn 3.36 axle ration again and that junky old 5 speed, not to mention only having 305 rated HP!

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/13363/2004-nissan-pathfinder-armada-se.html

Give it up, mentally you've brought a knife to a gun fight.

* This post was edited 11/21/07 08:47pm by cillyone *

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I still say when they do a test it will blow the doors off the weenie Armada. The 2008 Sequoia has a 17,280-pound GCWR and 10,000 lb tow rating that is the highest of any 1/2 ton SUV on the planet.

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and the Sequoia-Armada war concludes its 4th???? day


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