Best thing to do is shop around. I only got a few thousand off the window sticker of my truck but i feel the 0% for 60 months financing made up the difference.
My brother in-law has a 06 Titan nad has been very happy with the truck.
2007 Toyota Tundra Sr5 DC 4x4 8'bed 5.7 tow package 4:30 gears
2007 Keystone Outback Sydney 32BHDS
2006 HD Street Glide
1997 Yamaha YZF1000r
1995 Honda CR500r
Towed my 8500lb 33' trailer for the first time about a week ago. Went from San Antonio to the Texas Hill country (220 mile round trip), drove about 60-65 in 5th gear - no cruise, got 9.5 mpg for whole trip. Handled very well for the size trailer. Used more equalizing than I had in the past with my 2002 1500HD Chevy, but that was actually a 3/4 ton truck in most respects. Minimal sway. A little sway in the hills when I had a cross wind and the road was somewhat irregular, but slowed down a bit and no problem. Overall, the easiest towing I have had with 4 trailers and 6 tv's. I probably would opt for a big motorhome (I have had a couple of those also), but they didn't have an edge on handling, only in convience. I get 15-17 in combined driving and 17-18 at 70 empty on the interstate. That compares to 13 combined and 15 highway with the Chevy which had marginal power for my trailer. I am very happy! My only future fantasy would be a duelly Sprinter with a regular van body, and the 10000 towing capacity of the cutaway chassis some time in the future - but they don't make that yet, and I couldn't afford it for several years anyway! When those planets line up right, I will be able to eliminate the Trail Lite and the Tundra.
Dan
Dan
2002 Trail Lite 211S; 8.1 Liter Chevy,
2007 Tundra Double Cab 4X4 - Hot Rod,
2005 30RLS Outback Sydney Edition,
2007 Jeep Compass
DogFatherFL wrote: Carsdirect.com has a price of about $25K for a 08 Tundra, with the 5.7L V8, 4dr 4x2 Double Cab....
Great site to search "real" prices. I just got back from there and now see the real attraction of the Nissan Titan...
2008 Titan XE 4x4 King Cab 5.6L 317 hp 5 speed auto with tow/haul. MSRP $28,425. With incentive and rebate, target price $20,915.
That's right $20,915 for a 2008 4x4 King Cab. Thousands cheaper than anything else with a comparable size engine/transmission.
What a great price on a new TV for a couple or small family with a reasonably sized trailer.
Keith you old dog you
Before buying my 05 Cummins Dodge Ram new back in 2005, I seriously looked at the Nissan Titans.
I think that the pricing of the Titans was excellent, and still is.
They package their P.U.'s with good, useful options, and you don't have to mess around with picking and choosing Package A,B,C,D etc in order to equip your half ton the way you want it.
Surprisingly, when the domestic Big 3 P.U. maker's 1/2 tons were equipped fairly, equivalently to any of the Nissan Titans three classes or levels of their models....XE,SE, and LE.......the Titan came out thousands of dollars less. I priced out all the brands on Carsdirect, and the Titan was definitely ahead.
The only thing, I believe that kept the Titan from taking off in sales was their early teething problems with differentials, and warping brake rotors. It took Nissan a little too long to get this straightened out, and even though their 06-08 models are not prone to these early problems, a bad taste was left with many potential P.U. buyers.
That 5.6 DOHC all aluminum V8 mated to that silky smooth 5 speed automatic is still a beaut..
That Titan in my opinion is very underrated as a TV.
*****
I would have gone with it, if I hadn't decided on a 3/4 ton for my towing/payload requirements. Also the Nissan dealer I was working with, was not being very flexible in our pricing negotiations, and that sent me looking elsewhere.........Namely next door to the Dodge boys.
Regards, Eightballsidepocket
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT 4x2 Quad Cab, Cummins, 48RE Tranny, Lg Bed, Line-X Spray-on Bed Liner.
06 T25BS Komfort Trailblazer TT
"If you can't say it in person, it isn't worth saying while hiding behind an anonymous P.C.!"
The one thing that isn't mentioned yet is gas mileage. As long as fuel is readily available and less than $4 a gallon, the cost, ease of towing, and "brawn" of towing vehicles will rule. I remember the shortage of the early 70s, when gas was readily available at about 25% above the "sanctioned" price, and gas at the sanctioned price meant long waits in line. Most drivers have no memory of that, but the future is going to look more like that in the next few years, as we transition to viewing oil as a scarce commodity. I considered the Titan when I first got my trailer two years ago, but it had a reputation of being a gas hog. The 1500HD certainly was, but it was much cheaper (used). I just didn't have confidence in that vehicle towing in the mountains, but after driving my Tundra with trailer in tow, I would take it anywhere. I even considered towing my trailer with the Trail Lite, which is more "do-able" than you might imagine, since the vehicle only weighs about 9K wet, and has a combined towing capacity of 17.5K. Two things kept me from that. One was the distance between back wheels of the MH and front wheels of the trailer (even with the stability of duals), and I would still have a vehicle that gets 9-10mpg after setting up the trailer. That is what has me thinking about a Sprinter combination at some point in the future.
Dan
Daniel C. wrote: The one thing that isn't mentioned yet is gas mileage. As long as fuel is readily available and less than $4 a gallon, the cost, ease of towing, and "brawn" of towing vehicles will rule. I remember the shortage of the early 70s, when gas was readily available at about 25% above the "sanctioned" price, and gas at the sanctioned price meant long waits in line. Most drivers have no memory of that, but the future is going to look more like that in the next few years, as we transition to viewing oil as a scarce commodity. I considered the Titan when I first got my trailer two years ago, but it had a reputation of being a gas hog. The 1500HD certainly was, but it was much cheaper (used). I just didn't have confidence in that vehicle towing in the mountains, but after driving my Tundra with trailer in tow, I would take it anywhere. I even considered towing my trailer with the Trail Lite, which is more "do-able" than you might imagine, since the vehicle only weighs about 9K wet, and has a combined towing capacity of 17.5K. Two things kept me from that. One was the distance between back wheels of the MH and front wheels of the trailer (even with the stability of duals), and I would still have a vehicle that gets 9-10mpg after setting up the trailer. That is what has me thinking about a Sprinter combination at some point in the future.
Dan
If I recall back then, If I only had owned a diesel vehicle, I didn't have to wait in line for gasoline, or do the odd-even license plate days to buy gasoline back then.
Those with diesels could buy anyday, and didn't experience any shortages. Also if you had a motorcycle, I believe you were exempt from doing the odd/even license plate days........Maybe I'm mistaken on that one, but I was young and married with young kids, and it was something else waiting in those long line. Also it was about 30 years ago.
Remember getting out of the car and talking with other folks in line while waiting to move forward. There were some nasty little episodes with the gas station running out of fuel just before it was your turn to pump fuel, and you'd been in line for an hour or so.
****** By the way, gasoline, and diesel prices are dropping a slowly where I live in bay area California.
I was seriously looking at buying a Tundra SR5 Double Cab, RWD, Standard Bed, this past week. I have a bad back and while test driving the truck, the DW and I fell in love with the way the truck rode. It was as comfortable as any car. The truck was sharp, was well appointed, had plenty of power, and we liked it.
When we got back to the dealership, I looked at the label on the door to get the GVRW, the cargo capacity, and the GCWR. Well, the Axle Weights totaled 8000 pounds, but then the cargo carrying capacity on the truck was listed as 1580 pounds (online it was 1670 or so). No GCWR was listed. But the tire label limited passengers and cargo to 1475 pounds. I did a quick check of the tires themselves and the maximum weight added up to 9600 pounds.
During my inspection, I noticed that the fuel tank was plastic, that the rear springs were about half as wide as the springs on my Ford. I also noticed the radiator was plastic and not very big. But, the 5.7 sure was pretty sitting there.
While I was looking the truck over, the salesman came back out with the numbers and they were great. The price was absolutely great. The DW was ready to sign up. I was thinking how great the ride was and how nice the truck looked. Then I thought about the numbers and explained to the DW that I needed to do more research on the truck. We made an appointment to come back and left.
After I got home, I got online and looked at the numbers. The truck was supposed to carry 1670 pounds as I remember. I started calculating what I normally have in my truck when towing the TT. I figured 165 pounds for full fuel, 375 pounds for the DW and myself. Then 50 pounds for the two dogs. I usually carry my tool box which weighs about 100 pounds, a portable generator that weighs about 100, and odds and ends that weigh about another 100. Add to that the possible 800 pounds tongue weight for the trailer and my calculator screamed at me that the Tundra wouldn't allow me to haul it all without being overweight. And, that was based on the website numbers and not the label on the door. The truck was equipped with the tow package as well.
To the Tundra's credit, it is one nice truck. It has lots of power, it is beautiful, well appointed, and is very easy on a bad back. If Toyota were to increase the cargo carrying capacity and the GVWR, I would buy one in a heartbeat. But, my TT is not a heavy weight. The GVWR on the trailer is 7800 with 800 of that being tongue weight. The truck is just not heavy enough to do the job that I need it to do carrying what I need it to carry.
But, it was a beautiful truck. If it weren't for the low weight ratings, I would buy one in a heartbeat despite the plastic gas tank, the small springs and the plastic radiator. Did I mention that there was lots of room in the cab?
Shoot! I would almost buy it with the low cargo carrying capacity, but I know with my luck, the weight cops would add a fair amount of dollars to my monthly bill for the truck if I towed with it or I would have an accident and be at fault for being overloaded.
I don't think you have to add in the weight of a full tank of fuel or the driver's weight. I believe the net payload is based on a full fuel tank and one average weight driver. All other things added, ie. passengers, etc. would be subtracted, though.
merlin8735 wrote: ...If it weren't for the low weight ratings, I would buy one in a heartbeat despite the plastic gas tank, the small springs and the plastic radiator.....
There is not a single (consumer grade) vehicle on the road today without a plastic fuel tank.
Most, if not all, vehicles have aluminum radiators with plastic end caps.
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