cillyone wrote: YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE NISSANS FINAL DRIVE RATIO WITH OTHER MANUFACTURERS RATIOS!!!!
REPEAT AFTER ME...
YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE NISSANS FINAL DRIVE RATIO WITH OTHER MANUFACTURERS RATIOS!!!!
NISSAN DOES A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THE REDUCTION IN THE TRANSMISSION COMPARED TO OTHER MANUFACTURERS.
The Armada/Titan tow package 3.357 ratio is approximately equal to a conventionally-thought of 4.10 ratio. The earth does not revolve around a 1:1 4th transmission gear.
I love it! So true.
Not true. 2008 Armada
Drivetrain 4-Wheel Drive
Trans Type 5
Trans Description Cont. Automatic w/OD
First Gear Ratio (:1) 3.83
Second Gear Ratio (:1) 2.37
Third Gear Ratio (:1) 1.52
Fourth Gear Rato (:1) 1.00
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1) 0.83
Reverse Ratio (:1) 2.61
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1) 3.36
Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High 1.00
Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low 2.60
2008 Toyota Sequoia
Drivetrain: 4-Wheel DriveTrans Type: 6Trans Description Cont.: Automatic w/ODFirst Gear Ratio (:1): 3.33Second Gear Ratio (:1): 1.96Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.35Fourth Gear Rato (:1): 1.00Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.73Sixth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.59Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.06Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), High: 2.62Transfer Case Gear Ratio (:1), Low: 1.00 Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1)4.30
2008 Armada has a 12.8688 overall 1st gear ratio (3.83x3.36) and a 2.788 overall 5th gear ratio (3.83x3.36) that is not as low as the 2008 Toyota Sequoia's 14.319 (3.33x4.30) or as high as the Sequoia's 2.537 (.59x4.30) overall 6th gear ratio that gives the 2008 Toyota Sequoia the edge at both ends.
WOW, who would have thought a 6 speed tranny would have a wider gear ratio spread than a 5 speed!! I wonder if the 5 speed is wider than a 4 speed or even a 3 speed?? DUH, thanks for the earth shattering info, again and again and again!
BTW, what is not true? If you look at YOUR OWN data, all the Sequoia tranny gears are equal to or taller than the Armadas BECAUSE the Nissan does MORE of the overall gear reduction in the transmission, where the Toy does more at the axle.
I guess rear axle ratio has nothing to do with gear reduction.
cillyone wrote: Transmission gearing has nothing to do with gear reduction either, it's all in your imagination.
Cilly, don't waste your time. He gets it but won't acknowledge it. Just accept that the Nissan is a piece of junk and isn't in the same league as the Toyota. That it is as he defined "weenie" Also, accept that Nissan designers must have hi-jacked all the files from the Toyota engineering servers to build the Armada.
The performance and experience you are enjoying from your Nissan is a hallucination, it isn't real and PSD will rid you of the image after you let him in.
Once PSD has absorbed you into the collective, he will stop directing negative statements your way and add you to the mailing list of his newsletter, "Toyota Lover Weekly" where you instantly become added to the Toyota RSS feeds and links to latest and greatest car-show pictures that you have already seen posted hundreds of times. On top of that, if you are a paid member, you get an executable that when ran will autotype in the active window the following text VVT 5.7L 381HP 401FT. TORQUE 6-SPEED AUTOMATIC 4.30 GEAR RATIO After purchase of the Toyota product, PSD will unlock the autosig feature which will instantly add it to your profile sig so that all members in every forum can see that you have the detailed stock HP numbers rather than just typing "5.7"
So... just let it go...
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Well, I'll tell you this, PSD you did a fine job of backing up a statement (for the first time in a long time)....well done! Seriously.
Tundra/Sequoia's spread is fantastic...no one here said differently. But I have never heard a Titan/Armada owner wish they had "more gears" either. This only came about because someone mentioned rear end ratios like it was plug-and-play, everyone's on the same playing field.....when that's not the case at all.
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Supercharged wrote: 4-in-a-fiver and my statments make the same amount of since.
Ceck the specs of the vehicles out here (courtsy of Ford) Vehicle specs
Nissan, Toyota and Chrysler use Edmunds to compare vehicles and they leave out the 5.7 Hemi. Not sure why, but Ford uses Polk and the comparisons are better IMO (closer to apples to apples). The Expy EL is really starting to grow on me, although the price of the Aspen can't be beat. The Nissan 9.3 GB Music Box hard drive and compact flash slot feature is cool, but I can plug in my IPod/MP3 player in the Chrysler, Ford, and Toyota for the same if not better results based on recording type.
Overall, all are very capable tow vehicles, none are "weenies" and I don't think any will "blow the doors" off each other. Well ok the Aspen will smoke them all
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cillyone wrote: Transmission gearing has nothing to do with gear reduction either, it's all in your imagination.
Cilly, don't waste your time. He gets it but won't acknowledge it. Just accept that the Nissan is a piece of junk and isn't in the same league as the Toyota. That it is as he defined "weenie" Also, accept that Nissan designers must have hi-jacked all the files from the Toyota engineering servers to build the Armada.
The performance and experience you are enjoying from your Nissan is a hallucination, it isn't real and PSD will rid you of the image after you let him in.
Once PSD has absorbed you into the collective, he will stop directing negative statements your way and add you to the mailing list of his newsletter, "Toyota Lover Weekly" where you instantly become added to the Toyota RSS feeds and links to latest and greatest car-show pictures that you have already seen posted hundreds of times. On top of that, if you are a paid member, you get an executable that when ran will autotype in the active window the following text VVT 5.7L 381HP 401FT. TORQUE 6-SPEED AUTOMATIC 4.30 GEAR RATIO After purchase of the Toyota product, PSD will unlock the autosig feature which will instantly add it to your profile sig so that all members in every forum can see that you have the detailed stock HP numbers rather than just typing "5.7"
So... just let it go...
LOL!!!
Can I get the VVT 5.7L 381HP 401FT. Torque magazine at MY house too??!! Now that IS funny!! I just hope I run into all you guys at the same time/same campground....it is going to be a riot!! I might even start drinking again!! Hahahhah
Even I can make fun of my own Tundra!! LOL
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pnmhos wrote: Ceck the specs of the vehicles out here (courtsy of Ford) Vehicle specs
Nissan, Toyota and Chrysler use Edmunds to compare vehicles and they leave out the 5.7 Hemi. Not sure why, but Ford uses Polk and the comparisons are better IMO (closer to apples to apples). The Expy EL is really starting to grow on me, although the price of the Aspen can't be beat. The Nissan 9.3 GB Music Box hard drive and compact flash slot feature is cool, but I can plug in my IPod/MP3 player in the Chrysler, Ford, and Toyota for the same if not better results based on recording type.
Overall, all are very capable tow vehicles, none are "weenies" and I don't think any will "blow the doors" off each other. Well ok the Aspen will smoke them all
Those are some good specs, at least all in the same place and pretty clear info. That is important when shopping and you have like 11 brochures with various ways of listing options in packages or by single addition. It gets confusing! Hard to make good comparisons that way.
kmfvfr wrote: LOL!!!
Can I get the VVT 5.7L 381HP 401FT. Torque magazine at MY house too??!! Now that IS funny!! I just hope I run into all you guys at the same time/same campground....it is going to be a riot!! I might even start drinking again!! Hahahhah
Even I can make fun of my own Tundra!! LOL
Agreed, it would be a riot. I think the only place I actually do drink anymore is after I have setup the fiver and have the chairs out.
What happened? I used to do it all the time? Is that what happens when you turn 40?
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2005 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 4x4 CTD
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I don't drink anymore, I take in all my beer intravenously, I just hang the bag on the awning and it does not matter if it gets flat, that taste stuff is overrated anyway.
pnmhos wrote: Ceck the specs of the vehicles out here (courtsy of Ford) Vehicle specs
Nissan, Toyota and Chrysler use Edmunds to compare vehicles and they leave out the 5.7 Hemi. Not sure why, but Ford uses Polk and the comparisons are better IMO (closer to apples to apples). The Expy EL is really starting to grow on me, although the price of the Aspen can't be beat. The Nissan 9.3 GB Music Box hard drive and compact flash slot feature is cool, but I can plug in my IPod/MP3 player in the Chrysler, Ford, and Toyota for the same if not better results based on recording type.
Overall, all are very capable tow vehicles, none are "weenies" and I don't think any will "blow the doors" off each other. Well ok the Aspen will smoke them all
Those are some good specs, at least all in the same place and pretty clear info. That is important when shopping and you have like 11 brochures with various ways of listing options in packages or by single addition. It gets confusing! Hard to make good comparisons that way.
kmfvfr wrote: LOL!!!
Can I get the VVT 5.7L 381HP 401FT. Torque magazine at MY house too??!! Now that IS funny!! I just hope I run into all you guys at the same time/same campground....it is going to be a riot!! I might even start drinking again!! Hahahhah
Even I can make fun of my own Tundra!! LOL
Agreed, it would be a riot. I think the only place I actually do drink anymore is after I have setup the fiver and have the chairs out.
What happened? I used to do it all the time? Is that what happens when you turn 40?
Yup....40 would do it...two months ago I hit that in fact!! But I quit when I was 24...if I hadn't I wouldn't be here laughing about torque and HP ratings!!
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I think the only place I actually do drink anymore is after I have setup the fiver and have the chairs out.
