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Engineer9860

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rjstractor wrote:

That's interesting. Maybe it's an East/West thing, but most of the trucks I've seen in the truck classifieds out here are 500+ horsepower. With the much more mountainous terrain out here, perhaps truckers feel it's more economical to gain a little speed on hills at the expense of fuel mileage. Now for the local guys, like dump trucks, I've heard them say that the only thing that 500+ hp in a dump truck does is wear out the drive tires faster.


It is funny that you would bring up the East/West thing.

It isn't so much of a deal now, most trucks are considered "long haul" so specs aren't that different, but are usually matched to the type of hauling, and not so much geography.

However, in the 60s, and 70s, there were "East", and "West coast" trucks. The main difference being a larger engine, and factory installed A/C. The old Mack R models that had the V-8 diesel engines were referred to as "West coast Macks"

In CA, NV, AZ, etc. most 60s, and 70s Macks had V-8 diesels, whereas around here they were mostly inline 6 237s, 300s, and 300+s. Dont remember the HP on the V-8s, but I am sure they were more than 300.

Same for Cummins, Cat, and Detroit Diesel. They all had V-8s to supplement their I6s in the 60s, and 70s. V-8s in those days were needed because the extra 2 cylinders were needed to get the higher HP levels, and to keep the hood from being too long. An inline 8 would have been too long. In the 60s, and 70s there were nationwide overall length limits that are no longer in effect. Technology was not available to get more than 300hp out of an inline 6 in those days.


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Engineer9860 wrote:

However, in the 60s, and 70s, there were "East", and "West coast" trucks. The main difference being a larger engine, and factory installed A/C. The old Mack R models that had the V-8 diesel engines were referred to as "West coast Macks"

In CA, NV, AZ, etc. most 60s, and 70s Macks had V-8 diesels, whereas around here they were mostly inline 6 237s, 300s, and 300+s. Dont remember the HP on the V-8s, but I am sure they were more than 300.


Boy, you sure don't see as many Mack trucks as you used to. When I first joined the fire service most of our engines were Macks, and everybody loved them. It was a sad day when Mack stopped producing fire apparatus..


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Engineer9860 wrote:

It is funny that you would bring up the East/West thing.
I remember seeing a lot of Autocars in the midwest but once I relocated to Colorado I didn't see one. Are they still running around?


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NGRRFan wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:

It is funny that you would bring up the East/West thing.
I remember seeing a lot of Autocars in the midwest but once I relocated to Colorado I didn't see one. Are they still running around?


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Boy, you sure don't see as many Mack trucks as you used to. When I first joined the fire service most of our engines were Macks, and everybody loved them. It was a sad day when Mack stopped producing fire apparatus..


I've been in the fire service for 10 years. We had 4-5 frontline Macks when I started. I loved them, most hated them due to the lack of creature comforts compared to the newer Pierce apparatus. The Mack's were all 5 speed standard and we're pumping machines. Bare bones fire engines. I miss them.


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New Class 8 Flagship Set for World Debut at Chicago Auto Show

That’s right, Navistar will unveil its new International® LoneStar® class 8 flagship tractor under the bright lights of the Chicago International Auto Show on February 7. Journalists from around the globe will report the story from Navistar’s news conference and LoneStar is our headliner. LoneStar will help further define the International brand and enhance Navistar’s corporate reputation.
LoneStar is a break-through new product, a “segment buster” with a beautiful exterior design and an equally stunning and innovative interior. LoneStar was developed in record time without the use of confirmation prototypes. Our product development team went directly from clay and math models to production – a feat that most automotive companies have aspirations to someday achieve in their own product development processes. This new thinking and creativity embodies exactly what we want the world to see in Navistar – a winning company capable of great things.
Establishing this positive momentum for Navistar’s reputation and the International truck brand is crucial to our future success and growth plans. Simply put, being recognized as a winner makes all our goals achievable. People want to do business with winning companies, buy products from winning companies, invest in winning companies and work for winning companies.
The LoneStar tractor is designed to be fuel efficient, ergonomic and quiet, with bold looks and customization features. Most of the attendees and media at the Chicago Auto Show will have never spent any time in a class 8 truck. We aim to amaze them with our innovative design that enables drivers to save at the pump without having to sacrifice comfort, creating an entirely new category of truck. To further enhance attendee experience, they will be able to configure their very own LoneStar, right from the Navistar booth. And in the process, we hope to make our industry customers proud to be a part of the transportation business.







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Hmmmmmmm.......... I wonder if it comes in 6 wheel drive and low range transfer case? I could really rough it in style! Throw on a lift kit and 50 inch tires and lets hit the dirt!!! Oops, I just built an old deuce and half.


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bigjimcruising wrote:

Hmmmmmmm.......... I wonder if it comes in 6 wheel drive and low range transfer case? I could really rough it in style! Throw on a lift kit and 50 inch tires and lets hit the dirt!!! Oops, I just built an old deuce and half.

The 2 1/2 ton Army trucks I drove in the mid 60's only had 9.00x20 tires but the 5 ton had 11.00x20 tires. If you want a wild looking rig use the LoneStar body on a tube frame chassis with 19.5x54x20 SUPER SWAMPER BOGGER's .

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