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kalynzoo

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Posted: 01/17/08 11:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I was told the same thing in Williams, AZ. Maybe it is a county regulation? I can think of no good reason. We were allowed to let the hose touch the ground for dumping, but were asked to store the hose when not in use unless we wanted to use a support. It was not a problem at all for us, and the campground was nice about the request, so no big deal.

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We have one of those "contraptions" that expand out and keep your sewer hose off the ground, but so far we have never used it since our coach sewer dump port is only about eight inches above the pad on the bottom of the coach and the "contraption" is 10" high at its starting point!

Saw a coach using a rain gutter on some wooden blocks because of the same problem.


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Just watcha' need....RVers CHALLENGING the park owners....do that and they

1- will not let you in

2- will throw you out

and it's their right to do so.

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We are currently at Del Pueblo in Yuma and we have to keep the hose elevated off the ground per the rules. Rule book indicates it is a Yuma County Ordinance.


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We are currently staying at Desert's Edge in Phoenix and the rules state Maricopa County Environmental Services requires that extended-stay guests keep their sewer hoses off the ground. We were in Lake Havasu for a month and didn't have a problem with the hose on the ground.

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Same requirement where we are staying at Pueblo El Mirage, northwest of Phoenix.


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jerseyjim wrote:

Just watcha' need....RVers CHALLENGING the park owners....do that and they

1- will not let you in

2- will throw you out

and it's their right to do so.


That Jersey Jim, is why I suggested you ask them to do you (or rather ME) the FAVOR of citing the chapter and verse (Section and sub section) as opposed to demanding they produce it.

First: If you do it right it lays the question on me, which, is, in fact, where it belongs. And lets you off the hook.

I really would like to see the law you see, I like doing that kind of thing.

You do not challenge, you ask nicely.


There are many many "laws" the people have passed on info on from generation to generation.. Problem is, nobody ever sat down and wrote the law. I truly do not know if this is one of those cases but would like to. IN an earlier life I used to collect this type of stuff and still enjoy a bit of it from time to time.


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WA8YXM:
Granted..."you ask nicely".

However, that does not really change my assertion that campground "rules" or "policies" do not have to be "law".
Just like many CGs have limitations...or exclusions...to certain breeds of dogs..like pit bulls and Dobermans and Rotwiellers. No "law" makes that happen...but policies do. And if they say "no"...it's "no".
You own the business, you run it your way. As long as the "rules" are not illegal. And there's nothing "illegal" about having your customers raise their dumnp hoses off the ground. Yeah...a PITA for us, but........
((May I presume these places have the products that do this for sale in their store??))

JMO.

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Ok Jersey, I agree that a campground rule is effectively the same as a Law, In fact, I've often made that point in another discussion (or a variation of it)

Now: for the record, when it comes to Rotwiellers.. I have indeed seen laws in many communities (Well, Local Or dances they are called) banning Rots. (And usually selected other breeds as well)

I've also seen campground rules, CLEARLY STATED AS SUCH banning them unless you have like a million dollars worth of liability insurance (in some cases)

And I have no problems with these rules. If you don't like them Camp elsewhere

I was in Vegas about a year ago and one campground I wished (Not as it turned otu) to stay at had a rule about any pets, additional charge. We agreed to use the EXIT and camp elsewhere, no problems at the other much nicer camp.

For the most part a campground owner has the right to make most any rule he wishes so long as said rule does not conflict with existing law. Example, A rule banning members of ONE religion, conflicts with existing law. But a rule banning one bread of Dog, or banning sewer hoses lying on the ground does not so I have no problem with it if it is presented as a rule.

My problem is when a campground owner presents a rule as a state law or local ordinance (City law) when in fact it's just a campground rule.

That is why I ask if they can either show me the law or cite chapter and verse so I can read it. I try to make it sound like I'm interested in seeing the law

Mostly, because I am interested in seeing the law.

For example: There is one location I know of where at one time the law said ALL CAMPSITES MUST BE FULL HOOKUP. (no dry camping)

Well.... That one got modified

But in that case... I happen to know it was, indeed, the law, I read the actuall law.

I just object to a campground laying a rule off as "The Law" when it's not.

I don't (generally) object to the rule and if I do I file that objection with my tail lights.

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wa8yxm, VERY well stated, my thoughts exactly, thank you.


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