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donscomp

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SCR wrote:

Don,

Wow, what a pain in the .....

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I have to ask... did you try a power cord from your house directly to the receiver and TV with all power off in the coach, including 12 volt? Probably an exercise in futility but I'll ask nonetheless.


Now THAT is creative in deed SCR!! LOL

I have not tried that but it sure is an idea for a process of elimination.

A couple things. We went and bought one of those digital tuners from CW for the antenna. It is NOT hooked up at this time nor was it over the weekend. Now, when I hooked THAT up in the coach a few weeks ago in front of the house. The ONE channel I got was REAL sharp & clear.

Another thing. I should have tried the cable from the park we were at. But at that park. I donno if I could tell as it is crummy anyhow.
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2 weeks ago we got the coach back from the dealer. We had been having problems with the back up camera. They said they ran an isolated ground to it.

AND SOMETHING I JUST TRIED.
The DVD/VHS/surround sound (I use the aux sound all the time) I put in a DVD and it is going THROUGH the switchbox and all. CLEAR as a bell. Also. If I turn everything off the blue screen to the TV is clear as a bell also. (This is NOT the blue or setup screen from the DTV box) Just appears when I hook up the DTV receiver the problems start.
Just a couple things to add.

But a good idea to try about the power. Lota work but it has to be something in the coach or that the DTV receiver doesnt like.

* This post was edited 02/18/08 05:47pm by donscomp *


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Don,

LOL is right, "creative", every time I do that it involves a lot of work. Glad it doesn't happen often.

I am just trying to eliminate the coach as a problem as you say it works fine in the house. If it is clear with the power cord you then have a base to work from.

The camera and isolated ground sounds interesting. If the receiver works well with no power in the coach then it's time to start turning things on one at a time until you get the fuzzies. If it were me I'd start with the camera, is it wireless? What was wrong with the camera? Please understand that I know nothing about those cameras. However it is a video type thing that "may" cause interference. How close to the monitor to the camera is the D* receiver?

I'm afraid I am grasping at straws at your expense.

As a short cut to the above, can you disable the camera system without much effort? Then try with full power to the coach. It would be a shot at not going the power cord route, albeit a long shot.

Sure hope you find it and end the frustration. I wish you good luck,
Stan

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SCR wrote:

Don,

LOL is right, "creative", every time I do that it involves a lot of work. Glad it doesn't happen often.

I am just trying to eliminate the coach as a problem as you say it works fine in the house. If it is clear with the power cord you then have a base to work from.

The camera and isolated ground sounds interesting. If the receiver works well with no power in the coach then it's time to start turning things on one at a time until you get the fuzzies. If it were me I'd start with the camera, is it wireless? What was wrong with the camera? Please understand that I know nothing about those cameras. However it is a video type thing that "may" cause interference. How close to the monitor to the camera is the D* receiver?

I'm afraid I am grasping at straws at your expense.

As a short cut to the above, can you disable the camera system without much effort? Then try with full power to the coach. It would be a shot at not going the power cord route, albeit a long shot.

Sure hope you find it and end the frustration. I wish you good luck,
Stan


Thanks a LOT Stan for the imput. I am going to have to try to do that. Basiclly bypassing the coach. Donno when I'll get a chance as we are in for some rain here then off to the races in Vegas in a week.

The Camera is part of what they call an Aladin system. Built in and gives information like engine temps and stuff. But the monitor camera part kept flickering. Then going out. Not it appears to be fine. I can tell you that if I had or still used the old DTV receiver and IT was fuzzy. I would know it had nothing to do with the receiver.

This is very frustrating. But I will report back when I find something.

Thanks again for your imput.
All of you.

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Well, if the antenna pointing page is fuzzy the problem is between the receiver and the tv. Since you said you hooked a line direct from the receiver to the TV, thus bypassing all coach systems. Unless you have a batch of bad coax, I'm at a total loss, cause that is all I can think of.. Save for one other thing

I assume the TV works for over the air (Rooftop antenna) signals.. you could have a bad tv


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wa8yxm wrote:

Well, if the antenna pointing page is fuzzy the problem is between the receiver and the tv. Since you said you hooked a line direct from the receiver to the TV, thus bypassing all coach systems. Unless you have a batch of bad coax, I'm at a total loss, cause that is all I can think of.. Save for one other thing

I assume the TV works for over the air (Rooftop antenna) signals.. you could have a bad tv


Thats the thing John. I dont think it is cables as when I hooked up the digital box for the antenna bought at camping world one time. (again, at this time it is packed away and unhooked) even though I only got one channel, it was VERY clear. I am at a loss here also. I will try to run a power cord inside from the house and if it clears up. Then I know it is something electrical the DTV box doesnt like.

Thanks again all

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Well, I brought in an extention cord into the coach from the house and the same thing. Yet in the house it is clear. I did not take the extention cord to the TV and IT is clear on the DVD player and the 2nd tv is fuzzy through the DTV receiver. I had a tech come over for another reason and HE mentioned that it could be the D12-200 receiver. But then again I wasnt even plugged in 110 volt TO the coach. Although the D12-200 only has a two prong plug as opposed to a 3 prong like my old RCA DTV boxes. It is like there is a damn force field iside the coach!!! LOL

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You have tried the receiver in two places, Works fine in one, fuzzy in the other
This rules out the receiver

You have tried two different cables, you have tried going DIRECT to the television bypassing all switches or other stuff in the rig, This more or less rules out the cables, and the switches in the rig, Though 2 or more bad coax cables is NOT unheard of,, it's rare.

The only thing you have not "Swapped out" is the television itself

So, Does this give you a suggestion?

Question: Does the TV had "A/V input" jacks (Red/White/Yellow RCA-Coxial jacks?

If so, try that way of feeding it

But I think either your TV is way out of tune, or you got a bad tv

How does it work with over the air signals from local TV stations?

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wa8yxm wrote:

You have tried the receiver in two places, Works fine in one, fuzzy in the other
This rules out the receiver

You have tried two different cables, you have tried going DIRECT to the television bypassing all switches or other stuff in the rig, This more or less rules out the cables, and the switches in the rig, Though 2 or more bad coax cables is NOT unheard of,, it's rare.

The only thing you have not "Swapped out" is the television itself

So, Does this give you a suggestion?

Question: Does the TV had "A/V input" jacks (Red/White/Yellow RCA-Coxial jacks?

If so, try that way of feeding it

But I think either your TV is way out of tune, or you got a bad tv

How does it work with over the air signals from local TV stations?


The tv is clear as a bell with DVD. The 2nd tv in the coach is fuzzy as well off the DTV receiver. Thats why I dont think it is TV.

As far as the over the air? As stated before I did get a digital tuner for the antenna. I hooked it up here at home. Only got one channel but it was real clear. As weird as it sounds I still thik it is something to do with the receiver.

The TV has the composite? Blue,green and the other one. LOL
There are AV jacks but it is weird. They are not together. I gota take another look at that and try maybe the HD receiver from the living room out there. I just may run into setup problems if I try that.

Very weird.

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