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BrokenElbow

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Posted: 02/27/08 10:19pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wlhm: You may be totally familiar with this, but I would recommend reading www.rvtowingtips.com. Using your tv GVWR, GVW and CGVWR, you can calculate how much your tt can weigh and how much the tw can be. If you find that the receiver rating in the tv (including a WD setup) is below what you need, you can replace it with an after market receiver rated at 1250lbs. I towed the tt in my sig with a 2004 Nav with a max tow rating of 8600lbs. I was maxed out on the Nav and I had to change out the stock receiver, but it was ok until I could get a larger tv. A Reese HP Dual Cam setup helped a lot. With a little reading you should be ok.


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Does't a WD help remove load from tongue wt?
Just trying to learn.


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crash32 wrote:

Does't a WD help remove load from tongue wt?
Just trying to learn.


No, it distributes the load forward. Think of it like a wheelbarrow.
If you put 1000lbs in the wheelbarrow, longer handles will give you more mechanical advantage to move it and the longer they are the easier it is.... but there is still 1000lbs in wheelbarrow. Poor example but you get the idea.

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If my receiver states 875 tw can I push it to 900? Or should I replace the stock receiver?

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Honestly, I'd replace it with something more HD. 99% sure you'd be ok with 'pushing' the old one. but seriously, you can pick a better one up for less than $200...that sounds like cheap insurance to me.

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Campinfan wrote:

snip.....Why would having the slideout change the tongue weight....snip

As you open the slide the static weight of the slide moves away from the center of the TT, thus placing more weight toward one side of the TT and axles(s). This decreases the loaded weight placed on the tongue.

With my TT floor plan and my loading habits, the position of my slide represented about a 200lb difference on my loaded tongue weight.

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RustySocket wrote:

crash32 wrote:

Doesn't a WD help remove load from tongue wt?
Just trying to learn.

No, it distributes the load forward.....snip

Actually, the WD removes weight from the TV's rear axle, then distributes the weight to the front of the TV and to the TT axles. The loaded tongue weight remains the same.

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esizemo wrote:

If my receiver states 875 tw can I push it to 900? Or should I replace the stock receiver?

Eric,

IMO, don't exceed your TV's receiver weight ratings under any circumstances. You may want to confirm that the 875lb tongue rating is based on use with a WD hitch.

In another thread you stated that you recently purchased a Jayco Jay Feather, model 30U. This particular TT has a manufacture's dry tongue weight of 955lbs (link). IMO your loaded TT tongue weight will increase at least another 200lbs (to 1,155 lbs) depending on your loading habits. If this is the case, you may have to upgrade your TV's receiver in order to handle the heavier loaded TT tongue weight.

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Herdingdog wrote:

Educate me - how do you weigh your tongue wt?
We also have the Jayco 26BHS and are towing with a F150, 4x4 and have not had a problem towing our trailer
That includes a climb this summer up the I-5 Grapevine - of course we dumped before the climb


What I did was weigh the truck without the trailer. Then, with the trailer attatched drive just the truck on the scale. The difference is the tongue weight. You could also record just the front tires of the truck solo and with trailer. This will tell you how much weight you've added to the front using the weight distributing bars.


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Another way to quickly check your tw is to buy a Sherline scale. I find I use it periodically to check my tt loading. Sherline

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