Haven't stayed on BLM land yet, but I see that a 14 day limit is the normal rule for most locations. I was just wondering how strictly that was enforced.
I live in Ohio where the State Parks also have a 14 day limit, yet as a regular visitor I have seen people living long term in their campgrounds. I have heard off the record that some parks will let you stay longer if they get to know you and you keep a low profile.
Just wondered if BLM land worked the same way. From what I understand, places like Slab City actually have some permenant residents.
Christopher
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I don't know about all the districts but heres what I know about the south eastern Ca. and southwestern AZ area. There are 2 kinds of controlled areas.
1st is the recreational area, like Imperial Sand Dunes, these are a fee area and 14 day stay limit per visit. You can by a weekly pass or a yearly pass.
Then there are camping areas. Around Quartzsite there free areas with a 14 day limit. Other areas are called long term camping. They have a fee for 14 days or you can get a season permit and stay the winter, in fact you can move form area to area and use the same permit, as long as you stay in the district. Now if you don't want to stay in one of these areas, the rules are 14 day with no fee but usually not enforced.
Thats kind of overview. Contact the Yuma BLM office for details.
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Thanks Buffalobilly. I had assumed that the degree of enforcement sort of depended on the area.
I know that Quartzite, AZ is a very popular area, to the point where some BLM sites have dumps stations and water available. During the peak season there I would guess that fees are collected on a regular basis and the limit of stay would be enforced, just to keep space for others flocking to the area.
i would hope it would be on a case by case basis, if there are 60 spots and only 25 in the campground what's the harm? i know there are only 4 w/good views and someone will have to make an issue....but's from what i have seen it's handled by the rangers, like cops giving speeding tickets, some will hit you for 6 over other's it takes 12 or more, all the time the fed. govt. only enforces a 15% range on a speedometer so go figure...
who left the light on? is it me or are we leaning downhill. where did the dog run off to
My response is that if there are signs or some sort of notices pointing out a 14 day camping limit, that's what it means. One shouldn't be looking for a way to avoid the regulation, or hope that it's not enforced. However, there are exceptions and a request can always be made to the BLM folks to see if they have a long-term stay permit available for other nearby areas in their jurisdiction or whatever. Guess that I'd rather be a responsible citizen and abide by the rules than look for a way to get around them. Generally in our modern society we need to be aware that all folks need to get along and not let a few just "do their own thing without regard for others." Sometimes I don't like particular regulations either, but will try to find out why they are needed, or try to get them changed.
Christopher45103 wrote: I know that Quartzite, AZ is a very popular area, to the point where some BLM sites have dumps stations and water available.
Those would be at the Long Term Visitor's Areas (LTVAs) that the other poster was talking about. The free BLM areas around Q don't have these services available.
Quote: During the peak season there I would guess that fees are collected on a regular basis and the limit of stay would be enforced
You have to pay the LTVA fees at the Kiosks as you enter the LTVA areas...$40 for 14 days, or $180 for a 7-month period, 9/15 through 4/15. Now, if you pay for a 14-day period, I have no idea whether or not the camp hosts go around and either make you leave or require another $40 from you. Those LTVA areas are huge with thousands of rigs spread out over acres and acres.
Islandman wrote: My response is that if there are signs or some sort of notices pointing out a 14 day camping limit, that's what it means. One shouldn't be looking for a way to avoid the regulation, or hope that it's not enforced. However, there are exceptions and a request can always be made to the BLM folks to see if they have a long-term stay permit available for other nearby areas in their jurisdiction or whatever. Guess that I'd rather be a responsible citizen and abide by the rules than look for a way to get around them. Generally in our modern society we need to be aware that all folks need to get along and not let a few just "do their own thing without regard for others." Sometimes I don't like particular regulations either, but will try to find out why they are needed, or try to get them changed.
Those were my thoughts, exactly, but I did not post because I could not have penned it as well as you have.
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is it me or are we leaning downhill.
where did the dog run off to
