Camping Dutchman wrote: Laminated walls, not hung,
Why is a "hung" wall better?
Outlets can be mounted on wall not in cabintes etc, from my talk with the factory rep the insulation is better, if something every happens they can replace a section and not the whole wall(his words not mine). It is my undestanding that the R-values are better as well with the hung walls.
I know that the Cedar Creeks doors and access doors are cut from the same piece of sidewall and they make that into your access doors etc.., the Cardinal doors are not the same gel coat and are off the shelf units, that fade differently. Also Cedar Creek clear coats the vents/winow frames so they don't discolor
The Cedar Creek when priced came in over 4000 more than the Cardinal, RV Direct had some incredible Cardinal Prices.
2008 Chevy 3500 cc DRW Duramax
2009 Cedar Creek Silverback
I am going from a 2005 Cedar Creek to a 2008 Cardinal. There are several slight differences. The aluminum roof trusses and gel-goat are options on the Cardinal. Constuction is different, welded verses glued and screwed and like others have mentions the sidewall construction. The difference that made me go with the Cardinal in the floor plan I was looking at is the Cardinal had 7000 lb axles standard on the 36-2 bhle and the CC had 6000lb axles. My wife also liked the location of the washer and dryer better on the Cardinal.
There are even a few more differences between the two, than mentioned above. Also, larger axles are available on the CC for a small fee. If you have questions, I would be happy to answer them.
We live where it can get cool when we are RVing. Is the aluminum roof trusses a good idea? With most of the moister raising I would worry that it would condense on the aluminum. Has this been a problem?
Jim & Jane
2008 Cardinal 30TS
Trail Air Pin Box, Air Suspension, Smartair Air Spring Self Leveling, Reese Signature Series 18K hitch
2008 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 Duramax/Allison Ext Cab Long box Use And Promote CB Channel 13
It's my understanding that the gel coated Cedar Creek walls are bonded at the Owens Corning factory and then shipped CC for assembly. Contrary to this, others have the fiberglass panels shipped to the factory where they are glued to the wood and then attached to the trailer frames. I may be wrong however this is how it has been explained to me (or something like that).
2003 Dodge 2500 RAM 4X4 Quadcab Cummins High Output
Banks Six-Gun/Speedloader/Pyro,Trans Temp,and Boost gauges. Mag-hytec covers.
2006 Cedar Creek Silverback 5th Wheel (31LBHBS)
Based on my personal experience with my Cedar Creek, I could not in good conscience recommend the brand to anyone. Not conjecture, but actual results with problems and problems.
Sorry to hear you have problems with your Cedar Creek. We have been traveling full time in our Cedar Creek 37RDQS for more than a year and couldn't be happier. We have talked to several other CC owners with the same luck our we have had. I have yet to talk to a person who has had trouble with a CC. The brand has our highest recommendation.
We almost pulled the trigger on a Cardinal that had a great layout and a lot of options but we found that we liked the Silverback just a tad better. We could'a been happy either way I guess. I'll admit that my 08 Creek hasn't lived up to the reputation it has in these forums. Seems like a lot of simple stuff was missed during the assembly. In fact, I've owned five other (lower tier) units (non Forest River) and this Creek has had the highest number of serious post delivery defects (show stopper problems). Hopefully, we've got all our solveable issues addressed at this point.
Duane & Amanda, a teenager, A golden retriever named Jazz, a crazy pet rabbit named Stew, and now Optimus Prime the hamster.
2008 Cedar Creek Silverback 30LSA
2008 Ford F250 Lariat SC 4x4 PSD 6.4, Timbren SES, Husky 16k Slider