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DancesWithClouds

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Posted: 04/06/08 01:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I traded my Weekend Warrior toy hauler in on a new 2006 Gulfstream Independence motor home. The unit was brand new, just had set on two dealers lots here in Alabama for 2 years. Saved $40,000 off of the MRSP.

Anyway I went camping this weekend and could not find the instructions on the proper way to deploy the hydraulic levelers. My system is not the automatic type. It has 4 buttons to lower the levelers, labeled Front, Rear, Left Rear, Right Rear.

What is the proper sequence to lower the levelers? Appreciate the advice.


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Read the manual...Usually, notice I said usually, its stop, dump air, lower front then lower rear, but yours may be different. If its a HWH system, and you don't have the manual, go here..HWH Levelers..and get one. Do Not use your levelers to raise the wheels off the ground ! Excess stress on your coach caused by improper use of your levelers can have serious consequences..broken or snapped windshields being one...Good Luck with your new coach...Dennis


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DancesWithClouds wrote:

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My system is not the automatic type. It has 4 buttons to lower the levelers, labeled Front, Rear, Left Rear, Right Rear.

What is the proper sequence to lower the levelers? Appreciate the advice.
Your buttons work as follows:

The Front button lowers either a central jack in the front, or both front jacks. If you have two front jacks, the hydraulic lines are connected together. This allows the front to tip left or right without twisting the frame (with the two connected together, if the coach tips left, the left jack is pushed down, the fluid flows to the right jack which goes up. The net effect is that the center of the front stays at the same level.

The Rear button opens both left rear and right rear valves at the same time so the both rear jacks extend.

Then Left Rear button pushes down only the left rear jack and the Right Rear button pushes down only the right rear jack.

To level:

Note: If you have air suspension, dump the air first.

1. Press the Front button - both front jacks will start going down - whichever one reaches the ground first will encounter resistance and stop going down at which time the fluid will fill the other front jack until it reaches the ground - then the resistance will become equal and the front will begin to rise up. Raise it at least 3 or 4 inches to allow for left or right leveling without twisting the frame. (If you are really unlevel from left to right, you may need to get a couple of more inches higher).

Observe your level measuring devices. If the front is lower than the rear at this point, continue to press the front button until you are level from front to back.

2. Press the Rear button. Since the both valves are open at the same time, the rears will both go down until one side touches first then the other side alone will go down until it touches, and then both rear sides will rise together. When you feel the rear jacks take the weight, stop.

3. Observe your level measuring devices. If the left side is lower than the right, blip the Left Rear button until you show level from left to right (and if the right side is lower than the left, blip the Right Rear button until you show level from left to right).

4. Now check the front to back level again, depending on how much lift it took to get level from side to side, you may have to press the front button to raise the front a little more to regain level from front to back.

Note that your jacks have a limited amount of lift available, and if your camp site is quite unlevel, you won't be able to get your coach level. Also note that if you are quite out of level from side to side, you need to raise the front more to prevent twisting the frame.


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Posted: 04/06/08 02:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It sounds like you have levelers by "Power Gear" due to the fact that how you described the panel, it looks just like Power Gear. So if you have Air suspension, you would drop the Air. Then you would determine with the Levels that should be some where near your panel, which end of the MH is the lowest. If the front is the lowest, you would push the "Front" button and watch the level and keep raising until the bubble goes PAST level 1/2 bubble. Now push the "Rear" button until the bubble just comes back to level. You are now level Front to Rear. Now determine which side is the lowest by looking at the side to side level and push that button just until the bubble comes right to level, for instance if the right side is the lowest, you would push the "Right Rear" button until it comes back to level. Done. Note Power Gear only uses the "Right Rear" or "Left Rear" to level from side to side. The front jacks are not involved in the side to side leveling but they will equalize some what due to the action of the right rear or Left rear jacks. I have Power Gear and this is the procedure I have used for 4 years and by going past level with the lowest jacks first, and then bringing the last jacks back to level, you are forcing the jacks to carry their share of the load and it makes the MH a lot more stable which is what you are after, and it only takes ONE sequence to accomplish. Good luck

If in fact they are Power Gear, here is a link to the web site that has a lot of "Tips" and other info. Just click on RV Levelers after the site comes up.
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First the transmission has to be in park, the parking brake has to be applied, and the ignition key has to be turned to the accessory position.
Then:
1. Push the "ON' button (left center of the HWH panel) and look for amber lights. There are 4 amber lights, One in the center (left to right) on the top of the panel for the front jacks, One in the center (left to right) on the bottom of the panel for the rear jacks, One in the center (top to bottom) on the right side of the panel for the right side jacks, and One in the center (top to bottom) on the left side of the panel for the left side jacks. Only 1 light will be on at a time regardless of whether the coach is out of level from front to rear and from side to side.

There are only 4 jacks but they move in pairs only. Either the front 2, the 2 on the right side, the 2 on the rear, or the 2 on the left side.

I'll give you the sequence of operation as described for our Winnebago Adventurer. Winnebago recommends leveling side to side first to minimize twisting the frame.

If no Amber lights come on the coach is already level. The only thing you have to do in this situation is lower the jacks to stabilize things. In this situation I press the up facing arrow on the right side of the panel first.

As the jacks start to extend they will light a red light in the corresponding corner of the panel. When extending the right side jacks the light in the top right corner of the panel usually lights first. It's closest to the pump and reservoir and smaller than the rear one. In a few seconds you'll probably feel a slight movement of the coach as the right front jack touches the ground. About this time the light in the lower right corner of the panel should come on as the right rear jack extends. When both jacks are firmly on the ground the entire right side of the coach should begin to rise. When you feel the coach start to rise take your finger off the button. Then repeat the procedure using the up arrow on the left side of the panel. When all 4 jacks are firmly on the ground and the coach is level there should be NO amber lights on and a RED light should be on in each of the 4 corners of the panel.

If the left or right Amber light on when you hit the "ON" button start leveling the coach by pressing the up arrow on the side with the light showing. Depress the up arrow until the amber light goes out. Then press the up arrow on the opposite side until you feel all 4 jacks firmly on the ground.

Note: It may help to have someone outside monitoring the jacks the first few times you level the coach. Have your spotter pay close attention to the rear jacks. AT NO TIME DO YOU WANT TO EXTEND THE JACKS FAR ENOUGH TO LIFT A REAR WHEEL OFF THE GROUND. Lifting a wheel off the ground could allow the coach to loose traction. It can roll and injure someone, or cause serious damage to the coach.

If either the top or bottom amber light is on still level the coach side to side as previously described. If the light remains on after all 4 jacks are firmly on the ground press the appropriate up arrow until the light goes out.

If the front is low the amber light at the top center of the panel will be lit. Depress the up arrow at the top of the panel until the light goes out. If the rear is low the amber light at the bottom center of the panel will be lit. Depress the up arrow at the bottom of the panel until the light goes out. REMEMBER TO NEVER EXTEND THE REAR JACKS FAR ENOUGH TO RAISE A REAR WHEEL OFF THE GROUND

If you are unable to get all the amber lights out it may be necessary to reposition the coach and make another attempt. If you do need to move the coach hit the "Store" button on the left side of the panel and wait for all the red lights to go out before you attempt to move? It usually takes less than 3 minutes for all red lights to go out, but could take up to 15 minutes in extremely cold weather. When all the red lights are out all the jacks are in the full up position and it's safe to move.

When you’re leaving the campground hit the “store” button to retract the jacks. When they’re all stored all lights on the panel will go out and you’ll hear a clunk as the relay puts the system in the storage mode. Then you can remove the parking brake, start the engine and be on your way. Don’t use the “Off” button after the jacks are stored. Leaving the system in the automatic store mode will allow hydraulic oil to go back to the reservoir as it warms. If the system is in the” OFF” mode the fluid cannot return to the reservoir and may cause a jack to extend while the coach is in motion. If a jack does extend the corresponding red light on the panel will go on and an alarm will sound.


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DancesWithClouds

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Thanks for the advice it sure will help next time.

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