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Doug4.7

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Martyn wrote:

...To this day those of us old timers still calculate our fuel consumption in MPG because it is what we are used to - I talked to my brother in Bristol, yesterday and he actually was telling what his new car does in MPG. Much like the fact that I still use fahrenheit for temperature, although Britain now uses the Celcius/Centigrade scale...
When my family visited England, we were surprised at how "confused" they were. Despite being "metric", I saw distances to town in miles and distances to exits in yards, but I think the speeds were in km/hr. Gas sold in liters, but I saw adverts mentioning MPG of cars. And of course, they drive on the wrong side of the road....

Okay, maybe the English were not confused (they seemed to have no issues with the mixing of unit systems), but we sure were.....

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Martyn,

I had gotten the clue that you were English in your first post by the way you had spelled your name. You, being English, would know that the "Imperial Gallon" is not used in England and that had caused some "confusion". I wasn't remarking negatively to your post other than the use of the term "Imperial Gallon" and how it would be interpreted.

So many people in this country are and have been terribly mis-lead by years of media/etc psyco-babble hype claims that European cars get so many more miles per "gallon" than the vehicles in the U.S do. Because people here only know one type/size gallon, 128 fluid ounces or 4 - 32 ounce quarts! If you compare apples to apples for a true comparison, it's very close to being equal MPG's for equal vehicles in both etc countries. One exception noteworthy is that England and Europe use many times the number of diesel vehicles we do. 26%-55% more fuel efficient. Our present lack of diesel vehicle's of all sizes is in the process of changing here in the U.S. and Canada. Sure, a Smart Car etc gets better mileage than a Tahoe or a Navigator etc. It's a "no brainer" but look what you're comparing.

Yes, England is a tad smaller than Colorado but the U.S. has 50 of these States and with Canada being about equal in size to the U.S. makes one huge place to explore. Add them together and you have nearly 100 times the size of England. Yet, many people here have gone coast to coast, north to south, not once but many times. 3,000 miles or even more in any direction and you may still not be where you're headed to. Not much of a size or driving comparison at all between England/Europe and the USA/Canada.

Our Son's manufacturing company was in the Midlands of England and produced mechanical components/assemblies for the English and European auto industries so automotive jargon was discussed very often between us. Add to this the fact that I had spent 40+ years in automotive engineering and had my own engineering/consulting business. Of Note! The average 10 year old used vehicle in England normally has about 60,000 to 80,000 MILES on the clock while the average same vintage used vehicle in the U.S./Canada will have 140,000 to 220,000 MILES on it, not using kilometers either. Both are widely known verifiable facts right here on the Internet and from personal visual observation. That is why I made the comment as to the distances driven in England and Europe.


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travelnutz wrote:

So many people in this country are and have been terribly mis-lead by years of media/etc psyco-babble hype claims that European cars get so many more miles per "gallon" than the vehicles in the U.S do. Because people here only know one type/size gallon, 128 fluid ounces or 4 - 32 ounce quarts! If you compare apples to apples for a true comparison, it's very close to being equal MPG's for equal vehicles in both etc countries.

That is the point I was trying to make!

travelnutz wrote:

Of Note! The average 10 year old used vehicle in England normally has about 60,000 to 80,000 MILES on the clock while the average same vintage used vehicle in the U.S./Canada will have 140,000 to 220,000 MILES on it

Hmmm - I, and most of my family were/are averaging about 15,000 miles per year on all our vehicles - that would be 150,000 over about 10 years. I fondly remember one Mini 1000 that I put 75,000 miles on in 4 years.

Totally agree with you about the diesels. I was driving diesel Ford Transit crew-buses (duallies) back in the early 70's and was getting about 24mpg (British) - 30mpg (US). Not bad for hauling 14 people around at Motorway speeds.

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Anybody checked out this site being advertised here on the RV.net site?
I'm seeing it on this page as I am writing this. Not a popup.
What is it? "Double Any Vehicle's MPG!" Anybody looked at it? Is the RV.net site advertising with SCAMS?

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kmb1966 wrote:

Anybody checked out this site being advertised here on the RV.net site?
I'm seeing it on this page as I am writing this. Not a popup.
What is it? "Double Any Vehicle's MPG!" Anybody looked at it? Is the RV.net site advertising with SCAMS?


The software uses intuitive programming which will pull an advert based on thread content. We are talking MPG, so it is targetting that - big brother!

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Martyn wrote:

The software uses intuitive programming which will pull an advert based on thread content. We are talking MPG, so it is targetting that - big brother!
But it is targeting RV.net with an obvious scam. How is that okay?

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Doug4.7 wrote:

Martyn wrote:

The software uses intuitive programming which will pull an advert based on thread content. We are talking MPG, so it is targetting that - big brother!
But it is targeting RV.net with an obvious scam. How is that okay?

That's my point, when I see an advertisement on this site, I figured it to be legit. But when it comes to "double fuel mileage", I've yet to see a legitimate product. So this ad caught my eye.

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Doug4.7 wrote:

Martyn wrote:

The software uses intuitive programming which will pull an advert based on thread content. We are talking MPG, so it is targetting that - big brother!
But it is targeting RV.net with an obvious scam. How is that okay?


I didn't say it was OK, I just explained what it was doing!

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Here we are paying $1.15 a liter or $4.35 a USGallon.....and we have the stuff bubbling out of the ground around our feet, and we get no break





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Martyn wrote:

I didn't say it was OK, I just explained what it was doing!
Sorry if I made it read as if I was blaming you for the problem. That was no where near what I intended....

Another "Don't shoot the messenger!" case.

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