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Roadhouse66

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Posted: 04/11/08 01:19pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not sure if this is true, so hopefully you guys can answer it.

I always thought the unit dry weight listed for a camper was completely empty and dry. The place we bought our TT from said the listed weight for dry units actually includes your propane tanks full and fresh water tank full......is this true? So my camper has an advertised dry weight of 68XXlbs. So with the fresh water tank empty and propane tanks empty it would truly weigh 64XXlbs.

I've also heard the advertised curb weight of a TV is with the gas tank full....is this true?

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Well I think that is incorrct information they have given you. The dry weight on our trailer (from the brochure) did NOT include any fluids, spare tire, options. etc. There should be a sticker in your trailer with the actual out-the-door vehicle weight. Maybe in a cabinet in the galley area. Ours weighs 500 pounds more than the brochure dry weight. Brochure 4,000 pounds, factory sticker 4,500 pounds, plus fluids and personal items.


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Posted: 04/11/08 01:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Don't confuse "DRY weight" with "empty" or "unloaded weight". Dry weight just means with no liquids and MOST companies don't use t his. Most list "UVW" or "Empty" weights in brochures and this is the basic trailer with no options, either forced or selelcted AND no consumables aboard. The UVW will never been seen in a trailer that is in use. Dry weight COULD be seen but it would be pretty rare to drag around an unusable trailer.


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Posted: 04/11/08 02:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Go and look at the weight sticker inside one of the cabinets. Most of the ones I have looked at do not include the weight of the propane, nor the weight of the water in the fresh water tank, when giving the UVW. Most I have looked at looked similar to this.....





Also, truck weights do not include but a couple of gallons of fuel, and are a stripped down version. If you add a diesel engine, and other accessories, then the weights are not accurate.


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The OM for my Ford Ranger sez "² Base Curb Weight : Weight of the vehicle including any standard equipment, fluids, lubricants, etc. It does not include passengers or aftermarket equipment."

I read that as full fuel tank and any factory equipment.

My experience leads me to believe that many of these definitions can vary from manf to manf, esp in trailers.


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Posted: 04/11/08 02:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Forest River products are notorious for low dry weights. Some companies are right on. Aerolite and Kodiak weigh every trailer after it's made and put the sticker in the cabinet.

So basically they do whatever they please and it will vary from company to company.

MOST companies when using the UVW on the sticker inside the cabinet are "as built". When listing the number in brochure's it is usually for a trailer with NO options and dry.

My Sunnybrook stated a specific number in the brochure, the UVW posted in the cabinet is 400lbs heavier - I added options and that adds weight.


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The weight in the catalog/brochure and inside my cabinet door are only about a 100lbs different. It was the weight inside the door that the dealer told me included a full fresh water tank, and full propane. Thanks for the help.

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Posted: 04/11/08 09:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I liked the label I saw on Lance truck camper; not only gave the dry weights, but gave the likely weights of the water and LP, based on the capacities.

For a long time, the small fiberglass TTs had understated dry weights of 950 lbs; I presume there was something magic in being under 1,000 lbs (could be titles). Sadly, it tempts folks who are looking for something to tow with small car/SUV/golf cart or whatever. The weights now are more realistic for the ones still being manufactured.

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Posted: 04/11/08 11:38pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Let me give you a typical example:

1-Dry weight. (A lie advertised in brochures) . . . .4567

2-Delivered weight. (A lie found pasted inside a cupboard or inside panel). . .4960

3-Delivered weight with accessories (getting closer to the truth - but not stated) . . . 5200

4-Loaded with water, propane, tools, batteries, food, solar panels, sat, and camping gear . . .6200

My CAT weight fully loaded for a week was 12,900 pounds with a dry weight trailer of 4567 (Nash 25S) and a curb weight of my Surburban of 5860. Somehow we added 2,500 pounds! Remember curb weight means without gasoline, passangers, and your hitch assemply. It all adds up fast and most folks don't have a clue.


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Posted: 04/12/08 12:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looking something up for another RV group, I ran across this statement in the Owner's Manual for a 2007 Ford Escape:

"Base Curb Weight – is the weight of the vehicle including a full tank of fuel and all standard equipment. It does not include passengers, cargo, or optional equipment."

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