I think you mistakenly characterize such places as campgrounds. They do not consider themselves campgrounds, rather they are luxury resorts. Campgrounds have a place, luxury resorts have a place.
I prefer campgrounds, but that doesn't mean I have to be angry that other people choose to spend time a resorts that I would rather not use, or jealous that they won't let me in with my type C motorhome or pitch my tent on their putting green.
A few years ago I stayed at the Eagles Nest RV park near Porterville, Ca. for a job. It was kind of scary then but not to bad since I didn't have my family with me. There were some other companies const. superintendents staying there also. This last year I drove through the campground just to see if it had changed, it did. Boy did it. I would say mostly very older RV's and a lot of group get together areas set up in vacant spaces. The clientel looked like Night of the Living Dead meet Deliverance. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
I think that this type of situation is what most parks are trying to avoid. Usually if you tell a park that your rig is in good shape and will only be a couple of nights, they'll let you stay.
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There is nothing more boring than an RV park where you don't see folks hanging around outside. Thats why we love state parks, county parks etc. Kids are out playing, folks are building campfires, hanging out at the lakes, fishing, hiking. Then you see the parking lot RV parks, no one is out, they are all sitting in their RV watching TV.
To each his own I guess..
i've seen these and it doesn't phase me. if they don't want business, good for them. most of these are in places i wouldn't camp. you'd be hard pressed to find me at any campground that isn't in a national forest, where i can fish, climb, ride and get further away from the norm.
when i owned a house we had land cause we couldn't imagine living in a house where you could look out a side window and see your neighbors house. Just as much i don't want to be in a campground where the rv's are packed in like sardines. keep the resorts, i'll keep rosy lane, northbank, spring creek and taylor park.
1992 Four Winds Class C 27'
2002 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
A couple of kayaks, bikes, and whatever else we can pile on
We carry a box of nerf footballs and inflatable "two square" balls for the shrieking kids. We hand them out to these kids and believe it or not, it gets nice again. Why do this? We love kids, simple as that. Not that everyone should do this, but we do. And you know, we can ask these kids to be a little quieter and it works almost a hundred percent of the time.
Now drunk, loud, obnoxious folks get under my skin.
However, diversity is what makes life so grand. Think how boring life would be if we were all "stamped" out of one mold.
Have fun, enjoy the road, and hope to wave hello to all of you some day.
2001 Four Winds Class C
Ford Triton E-450 V-10
2004 Jeep Cherokee Limited
Born to fish
We once camped with our then 18 yr old pop up (in fantastic shape for its age but clearly dated) in a park that caters mostly to the retired fancy Class A MH crowd. The park didn't have an issue with us (there was one other pop up and also a truck camper) but we got raised eyebrows from a few of the RVers. We smiled and waved and kept our site clean; we were quiet and friendly and visited with a few people and they were pleased to learn we weren't scum.
Now I drive an 8 yr old MH, Class A, but it's not as big or nice as the newer DPs.
I prefer 1. No kids to quiet kids. 2. No big wheels. 3. quiet dogs. 4. All dogs poop. I prefer where people pick up after them. 5. I like tuba music but don't have or play one. 6. Drive under 10, but enjoy seing the restored antiques. second 6. I don't drink any of those. prefer water. Which of your sections would I fit into?
Thinking maybe I don't fit into RV Lifestyle at all!
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The Cookie Hauler (1990 Lumina APV, in which I camped before I got an RV and quit camping)
The Bee (2003 Trail Lite B-Plus on Ford E350)
I'm starting to wonder if quiet kids still exist. And, when they scream, why do they sound like they're being torn apart by wild dogs? Our new next door neighbor's kids scream bloody murder while bouncing on their trampoline. The back neighbor's grandkids to the same while in the swimming pool.
I've always thought that if a pervert ever comes along and drags one into their car, nobody around here will notice because their screams while being kidnapped would sound the same as usual.
Quote: 2. Big wheels or no big wheels?
Are you going to separate RV's by whether they have 16.5'', 19.5'' or 22.5'' wheels?
Or... are you referring to those cheap kid's trikes with the plastic tires that sound like a 1,500 lb. millstone grinding against rough concrete when they're ridden on pavement? (With, by the way, your nerves getting ground up in between the millstone and concrete)
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I'll be glad to tell you what it is, or at least what started it. It's class warfare at it's finest.
Many times discrimination is hidden in a rule.
Least you think I jest, I have seen more that one instance of people moving from town to a new rural suburb. Lets say that across the road, is old farmer Browns place. Mr. Brown has lived there since 1946.
Now Mr Brown happens to have some old tractors and pickups around his barn. Not a trashy barnyard, but the equipment is there. For some reason the people at the new suburb have a problem with this. But they don't have the nerve (a common thing these days) to have the common decienty to let Mr. Brown know that they have a problem.
So next thing you know, The county sends Mr. Brown a letter demanding them to move them. Never mind the fact they have been there for thirty years.
Nor do any of these people make an attempt to be a good neighbor to Mr. Brown. Besides, he's far too “hillbilly” of a fellow and quite beneath them in their eyes. Conversely, Mr. Brown is a man who would help anyone who needed it.
In all my RV travels, I meet all types of people. I also loath anyone who looks down on someone with an old rig. In some cases, that tired old RV may be the only thing keeping them from being homeless.
In a dead end job, RV life can actually help you achieve middle-class. By giving up some things,(room being the most) They can pocket the money instead of giving it all to a landlord.
I am NOT talking about troublemakers, drunks or druggies who have no intention if bettering themselves. Those people should be excluded or incarcerated. However, calling someone riff-raft based solely on rig appearance is by far short-sighted. Some of these people are the most friendly-out going people I have ever met. So what if they use their RV for work or primary home? At least they are trying, and not resorting to living off of welfare.
Why can't people live and let live?? Why do some nosy people just drive around looking for something to bi#ch about?
Let me tell you a story about some so-called -Riff-raft
IMHO, some of these people deserve to be helped, not excluded. I once parked next to a 1967 Ford Econoline motor home. That thing was a wreck. The campground wanted to kick them out because of the ugly blue tarp on the roof. The young couple had a newborn baby, and they were new to town. The husband had a new job, barely hanging on, but they had least had their foot in the door.
My farm was 250 miles away. On that farm, I had a 1976 Dodge Shasta Motor home in fairly good shape I could not find a buyer for. I called my brother, and asked him to start the old unit up, and drive it down here. I gave them that old motor home. It was junk to me, but vital to their survival in that town.They were shocked to say the least. It was a good feeling. But this is not the end of the story.
Three years later, I woke up and went outside to find a familiar shape in my driveway. There was my old Shasta! No worse for the wear, clean as a pin, new tires, the title in the front seat, and a envelope with a $500 check, and a thank you card. Seems these people had managed to save enough and were buying a house.Great! They didn't have to give that unit back, but they did!
So you see, for some people, RV'ing is not only for recreation. Campgrounds also know this, and some of them try to stop them.For some reason, making a living is considered wrong. They know that struggling people cannot buy a less than 10 year old Rig. They fear that these people may have trouble with the rent, so they cater more to people who “have it together”
I'd rather boondock the rest of my life than cater to a CG who would exclude the common working person. I'd rather be camped next to the Clampetts any day than the jerk in the diesel pusher who does nothing but sit in his captains chair and looks down on the rest of us like it was a royal throne. Besides, The hillbillys would help me if someone tried to rob me. All the guy in the Diesel pusher would do is call the office and complain about the noise!!!
So instead of complaining about that old unsightly rig next to you, if you REALLY want to improve the situation, why don't you give them your old one and help your fellow man? Old rigs have very little value, and it would be more appreciated by a needy person than the dealer, who will most likely scrap it anyway.
Used to, you could rent a campground for less than the cost of generator operation. The new lister-type gen-sets are great!!! to me a good generator is the best statement of independence.
If I ever own a campground, if your rig is 10 years or newer, you may have trouble getting in (grin) It's a freggin' campground, not a country club. same way with the old car hobby, some wealthy people "buy" into it, and spoils it for everyone.
I am not wealthy, but well-off. I do not understand why the FIRST thing a wealthy person tries to do is make rules EXCLUDUNG people of less means!
Being a "good Sam" is quite one thing. If I see a fellow camper having trouble with something, I never fail to help. this is even on the side of the freeway. But I guess a few "elite" people belong to the "Snobby Sam" club. you never see these people outside, Except their yapping poodle, that they most likely paid more for than I did my whole rig!!
Isn't it sad when you don't even qualify for "trailer trash status???
As for the camp ground owners excuses/reasons stated I don't buy it. I've seen things like this happen too many times. I have personally seen Blacks, Hispanics, and even White people who are not dressed nice be turned away, With nice looking older rigs. It's a loophole to discriminate, hiding behind a rule that makes sense on the surface. However when looked at more closely, it does not hold water.
Andrew Taylor
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And, when they scream, why do they sound like they're being torn apart by wild dogs? Our new next door neighbor's kids scream bloody murder while bouncing on their trampoline. The back neighbor's grandkids to the same while in the swimming pool.
