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WTTCS

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Posted: 06/30/08 04:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

How about this........................I went to an rv park in north calif two months ago.......

RULE NO 1.................NO MILITARY............NOT EVEN RETIRED....DISABLED........OR ACTIVE.....................


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Tempola, I think that was the nicest letter I have read in a long time. My idea used to be "roughing it" was a HOiliday Inn with a broken ice maker. I got tired of filthy rooms and bought my first TT. DW wasn't much for the idea. She has come around. It is no longer a TT toher , it's her B%B. WE have been very lucky. We travel 6 months of the year, when everyone is in school. Hmmmm!. no distractions, get to golf, add a state ball to the collection, stay in one place for a week or so, sightsee this wonderful country of ours. We are not rich, but we plan out the trips and the expenses and havea wonderful time. We are blessed.


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Posted: 06/30/08 09:38pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

WTTCS wrote:

RULE NO 1.................NO MILITARY............NOT EVEN RETIRED....DISABLED........OR ACTIVE.
Wackey, I'm guessing that park was in the Bay Area. Many of the lovely people there seem to think that about us service trash.


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Posted: 06/30/08 09:48pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think in the not too far distant future only those with large very expensive rigs will be the only ones traveling..so the snob-parks will cease to have a problem.
The rest of us can just hope to stay fed.


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tempola wrote:

I'll be glad to tell you what it is, or at least what started it. It's class warfare at it's finest.
Many times discrimination is hidden in a rule.

Least you think I jest, I have seen more that one instance of people moving from town to a new rural suburb. Lets say that across the road, is old farmer Browns place. Mr. Brown has lived there since 1946.

Now Mr Brown happens to have some old tractors and pickups around his barn. Not a trashy barnyard, but the equipment is there. For some reason the people at the new suburb have a problem with this. But they don't have the nerve (a common thing these days) to have the common decienty to let Mr. Brown know that they have a problem.

So next thing you know, The county sends Mr. Brown a letter demanding them to move them. Never mind the fact they have been there for thirty years.

Nor do any of these people make an attempt to be a good neighbor to Mr. Brown. Besides, he's far too “hillbilly” of a fellow and quite beneath them in their eyes. Conversely, Mr. Brown is a man who would help anyone who needed it.

In all my RV travels, I meet all types of people. I also loath anyone who looks down on someone with an old rig. In some cases, that tired old RV may be the only thing keeping them from being homeless.

In a dead end job, RV life can actually help you achieve middle-class. By giving up some things,(room being the most) They can pocket the money instead of giving it all to a landlord.

I am NOT talking about troublemakers, drunks or druggies who have no intention if bettering themselves. Those people should be excluded or incarcerated. However, calling someone riff-raft based solely on rig appearance is by far short-sighted. Some of these people are the most friendly-out going people I have ever met. So what if they use their RV for work or primary home? At least they are trying, and not resorting to living off of welfare.

Why can't people live and let live?? Why do some nosy people just drive around looking for something to bi#ch about?

Let me tell you a story about some so-called -Riff-raft

IMHO, some of these people deserve to be helped, not excluded. I once parked next to a 1967 Ford Econoline motor home. That thing was a wreck. The campground wanted to kick them out because of the ugly blue tarp on the roof. The young couple had a newborn baby, and they were new to town. The husband had a new job, barely hanging on, but they had least had their foot in the door.

My farm was 250 miles away. On that farm, I had a 1976 Dodge Shasta Motor home in fairly good shape I could not find a buyer for. I called my brother, and asked him to start the old unit up, and drive it down here. I gave them that old motor home. It was junk to me, but vital to their survival in that town.They were shocked to say the least. It was a good feeling. But this is not the end of the story.

Three years later, I woke up and went outside to find a familiar shape in my driveway. There was my old Shasta! No worse for the wear, clean as a pin, new tires, the title in the front seat, and a envelope with a $500 check, and a thank you card. Seems these people had managed to save enough and were buying a house.Great! They didn't have to give that unit back, but they did!


So you see, for some people, RV'ing is not only for recreation. Campgrounds also know this, and some of them try to stop them.For some reason, making a living is considered wrong. They know that struggling people cannot buy a less than 10 year old Rig. They fear that these people may have trouble with the rent, so they cater more to people who “have it together”

I'd rather boondock the rest of my life than cater to a CG who would exclude the common working person. I'd rather be camped next to the Clampetts any day than the jerk in the diesel pusher who does nothing but sit in his captains chair and looks down on the rest of us like it was a royal throne. Besides, The hillbillys would help me if someone tried to rob me. All the guy in the Diesel pusher would do is call the office and complain about the noise!!!

So instead of complaining about that old unsightly rig next to you, if you REALLY want to improve the situation, why don't you give them your old one and help your fellow man? Old rigs have very little value, and it would be more appreciated by a needy person than the dealer, who will most likely scrap it anyway.

Used to, you could rent a campground for less than the cost of generator operation. The new lister-type gen-sets are great!!! to me a good generator is the best statement of independence.


If I ever own a campground, if your rig is 10 years or newer, you may have trouble getting in (grin) It's a freggin' campground, not a country club. same way with the old car hobby, some wealthy people "buy" into it, and spoils it for everyone.

I am not wealthy, but well-off. I do not understand why the FIRST thing a wealthy person tries to do is make rules EXCLUDUNG people of less means!

Being a "good Sam" is quite one thing. If I see a fellow camper having trouble with something, I never fail to help. this is even on the side of the freeway. But I guess a few "elite" people belong to the "Snobby Sam" club. you never see these people outside, Except their yapping poodle, that they most likely paid more for than I did my whole rig!!

Isn't it sad when you don't even qualify for "trailer trash status???

As for the camp ground owners excuses/reasons stated I don't buy it. I've seen things like this happen too many times. I have personally seen Blacks, Hispanics, and even White people who are not dressed nice be turned away, With nice looking older rigs. It's a loophole to discriminate, hiding behind a rule that makes sense on the surface. However when looked at more closely, it does not hold water.

Andrew Taylor


That was awesome. Very well put.

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In the current CG in which we reside - they have a standing rule that if you are in the "long term" section (reserved for seasonal and or permanent residents), your rig must not be older than 15 yrs.
The camping area (for overnights and short term campers - any rig is allowed - there are even campers here now who have a tent on their site with their TT.
Double check with your CG. The "too old" rule may only be for the long term campers.
If not - then that IS very snobbish.


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WTTCS

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Posted: 07/01/08 02:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think some of you are missing something. Take Calif for instance, or NJ, and go get you a monthly site. By law, if you move in for 30 days, you become a permament resident, and therefore fall under the "landlord/tenant" rules of those state.

If you were a park owner/mgr, would you rent a monthly site to a person in a broken down , window missing or covered with foil, mismatched wheels, tarp over the top, etc rv? In those states, if you do and the people fail to pay, then you have to evict them thru the courts. You ever try to do that? If you are lucky, you will get it done in one full year and spend thousands YEP THOUSANDS of dollars on doing it.

Some of you just need to consider the source of these problems. I suspect that no one on here would ever get in that shape , but folks there is a whole different world than those on this forum.

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Posted: 07/01/08 06:46pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I wouldn't allow anyone to stay longer than 28 days ever under any circumstances, period, end of story, no exceptions.


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Posted: 07/06/08 12:03pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2007 model 30 foot trailer, one of my friends has a 14 year old 18 foot trailer and another of our friends has a 2006 quarter million dollar diesel pusher. None of us will ever spend a penny at one of these snob parks or ever even consider speaking to one of these elitists who do.


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I must be missing something here. When I go to ReserveAmerica.com, I find a lot of parks that don't allow anything over 36'. Since I am restricted from going there, should I be upset and think those campgrounds (state, fed, whatever) are snobbish and elitists? I don't - I usually just think I don't have the proper rig for that location, and look for another.

I suppose I don't have the energy to be upset by where I can't go, but rather spend my time diggin what I can do. I'm not pretty enough to get into a trendy club in LA, so I don't bother. Live and let live - just don't harsh my mellow


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