wallynm

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How fast are you driving the fancy Suburban. Is it full time FWD and have a 6 L engine. We have a 2000 Surbrban with a 5.3 L or about 327 cubic inches and weighs in @ 5700 pds. We run into Colorado during ski season loaded and have a ski rack. We start @ 7000 ft and wind up @ 9200 ft. and travel a couple of passes that exceed 10,000 ft. We aveage 17 to 19 MPG and run 65 to 80 anytime so we can to make good time. On bad snow days when we are in 4 wheel auto and/or 4 wheel high we drop down into 15's or so.
Travelr wrote: We also have an Escalade at 6800 lb getting 14.1 MPG. 
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Travelr wrote: We have a 32,000 lb DP getting 7.5 MPG average towing a 4600 lb toad. We also have an Escalade at 6800 lb getting 14.1 MPG. It seems the Escalade should be getting at least twice the mileage or....the DP should be getting at least half of what it gets....on a per pound MPG. What's wrong with this picture? Don't get too technical on me here. I'm just thinking, not putting the calculator to this. 
This is way out there but just a thought. The MB powered Sprinter has GVWR ratings higher than the Escalade and apparently is capable of 25ish mpg. That powertrain makes about 150 HP to the caddy's 400 HP but gets the job done. I bet if giant SUV's are going to be available years from now they'll be powered similarly.
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For 50 grand I can get a Tahoe hybrid that they claim is getting 25 ish today. Just can not see 50 grand right now.
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Two Jayhawks wrote: I bet if giant SUV's are going to be available years from now they'll be powered similarly.
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I have two thoughts on this. First, 18 wheelers with a gross weight of 80,000 can approach 7 mpg. They are into aerodynamics and low engine rpms. Next, I had a 20 ft cargo trailer that I made two trips with moving 1300 miles each way. The trailer just had the usual box shape. I checked the mpg each way on both trips to see if the weight of the load(it was loaded heavy one way and empty the other) affected the mpg or not. Results-it got the same mpg loaded or empty so the was the wind drag doing a number on it. I pulled it with my 1994 Dodge 2500 cummins diesel 3.54 rear end. It gets 22mpg hwy by itself and 13 1/2 towing this trailer.
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Rocket_Heart wrote: I see - and I agree - the Escalade should in theory get at least 3 times the mileage right????
Only if it has about 1/3 the frontal area. More likely, it has about 1/2 the frontal area.
There is probably also a difference in driving, most of the motorhome time is cruising, the Escalade gets to do all the stop and go stuff, uses energy to accelerate that you just convert back to heat when you hit the brakes 2-3 minutes later.
I've had several cars that size, large sedans, minivans, SUVs that would get 14-16 mpg on the average, but on a highway trip (equivalent to how my motorhome gets driven) they might be good for 20 mpg or better if I don't drive insanely fast.
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wallynm wrote: For 50 grand I can get a Tahoe hybrid that they claim is getting 25 ish today. Just can not see 50 grand right now.
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Two Jayhawks wrote: I bet if giant SUV's are going to be available years from now they'll be powered similarly.
That's a rating computed from measuring emissions, for a very specific test cycle with little resemblance to real driving.
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The Escalade is a business vehicle that works well for it's purpose, and I enjoy driving it. We are in real estate, and back in the days when we were selling homes, (we still are just not as many) it's a dress for success as owners of the two companies. Now looking at mileage by the pound makes the MH feel like a good mode of travel. After all the Escalade doesn't have a bathroom nor a kitchen....so what more could we ask for? Hey that makes the miles per pound even better... I just put this thread out as a light hearted thing. I tell my agents to not hang around with other real estate agents as they are all too negative. Hang out with regular people and keep your good attitude. So, that's what I'm doing here, hanging out with regular people, and trying to keep us all from being too negative about gas prices and MPG. That's all....!!!
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Not meaning to give you a hard time most of the real estate folks I know that dress for success drive a Lexus.
Travelr wrote: The Escalade is a business vehicle that works well for it's purpose, and I enjoy driving it. it's a dress for success as owners of the two companies.
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wallynm wrote: Not meaning to give you a hard time most of the real estate folks I know that dress for success drive a Lexus.
Travelr wrote: The Escalade is a business vehicle that works well for it's purpose, and I enjoy driving it. it's a dress for success as owners of the two companies.
A hard time is appreciated on occasion. Market slow.....playing Sudoku.. Lexus... Very very nice and we considered it. But here at Lake Tahoe.....seems everyone has them. Escalade's too for that mater. Probably the big difference is few women drive the big SUV's because of the size. They seem to like the midsize SUV's. The main reason for the Cad was we did have a 28' Formula B-4 the DP. (glad that's gone, it only got 1.3 MPG) To tow the 9000 boat and trailer up from Sacramento where we kept it in the winter to the lake in the summer, it did very well. Handled fantastic, plenty of power. I had towed many times with many different vehicles, and this was the best all around.
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