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SemperFiCop

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Posted: 04/25/08 07:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Flyfisherman128 wrote:

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Big Oil = Organized Crime...


The only two businesses not governed by the laws of supply and demand


Hey, you, pist, pist, shoo, shoo, we have to keep quite about this issue, thank you, we will talk later at the secret location at that secret time, same bat channel...





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Big Oil = Organized crime -> the socialist idea: that profit is theft.

now to the real issue: is 2x6=12 volts better than 2x12= 12 volts and how does that math work anyway?

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horton333 wrote:

Big Oil = Organized crime -> the socialist idea: that profit is theft.

now to the real issue: is 2x6=12 volts better than 2x12= 12 volts and how does that math work anyway?

In both cases, I think your formula is inaccurate.

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I beleive Big Oil = Organized crime. They are both found in Washington DC in all three branches of Goverment.

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Flyfisherman128 wrote:

I just watched a show on tv last night showing all the cutting edge technology that is out there that will save the world from the increasing energy wows... Like BIG OIL will ever let any of us see it. They will buy up and control all of it, after all as they say "they are not a gas company, they are an energy company". We not only need to free ourselves from OPEC, we need to free ourselves from big business.
I totally see where you're coming from with the "Big Business" conspiracy. Those backroom companies that never go public and allow middle-class citizens to buy stock and become shareholders. Shareholders who actually have a vote in the company's direction or who never have the opportunity to be patient and become millionaires by the time they retire (or sooner with careful planning). Microsoft, Harley-Davidson, Coca Cola, Nike, Wal-Mart, IBM, etc. are all in cahoots to keep joe six-pack from buying stock and becoming financially independent because then they couldn't fly around in their black helicopters and secretly control the planet.

And that dang "Big Oil". Absolutely no American pensions, 401k's, mutual funds or individual shareholders have any interest in "Big Oil". Again, those same five guys are doing their best to keep us from putting gas in our vehicles and getting to work; or to our favorite campgrounds. The last thing they want to do is actually allow us to fuel up and go. "Big Oil" has no intention of bringing fuel to the open market, right? Because the government has done so much to fuel the engine of progress. (funny how those who cry the loudest about our so-called "dismal economy" are the same ones who support those that stand in the way of growing the economy or becoming energy independent). Heaven forbid they actually make a profit and see the stock grow for the millions of folks around the world who own oil stock and want their portfolios to grow. Because if those millions of stockholders around the world who are invested in Mobil, Exxon, Chevron, etc. (whom actually own the company) made any return on their investments then the "Evil Five" wouldn't be able to fly around in their black helicopters and secretly control the planet. Dang, I better cash in my pension, sell my stocks and close out my 403b because "Big Oil" and "Big Business" have no interest in making a profit that will entice even more average folks to invest and prosper. -Sheesh-

As a school teacher I have a somewhat unique opportunity to see just how woefully inadequate our education system is in educating our children about capitalism and economics. Here in California our kids are well aware of just how unfair the world was 500 years ago to Africans and Native Americans but they have absolutely no clue how to invest and to help continuing to build an economically free civilization today. And for those of you who are following me: yes, I am working on my post-graduate degrees with the intent purpose of doing my small part in changing the decades long socialist movement of education and reinstituting the idea of free trade and global economics into education. I (currently am and) will be doing what I can to help our kids continue to grow the freedom oriented values of our great country and not concede it to Marxist ideals (which seems to have been the ever-building trend in America since FDR's policies of the Great Depression and LBJ's Great Society).


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Oh and I want to add this...all you brainiacks out there developing new types of fuel...if your idea is in someway connected to using our food source...forget it. Bad idea. I don't want to give up my cream cheese and bagle for a ride in the country!!!
Now that I agree with you on, my friend. There's still hope for you. We're all Americans and we're all in this together.

Godspeed Freedman and Heston. RIP.

Please mods, the naysayers' posts are still up in this thread; allow this post to stand...


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traxtermax wrote:

horton333 wrote:

Big Oil = Organized crime -> the socialist idea: that profit is theft.

now to the real issue: is 2x6=12 volts better than 2x12= 12 volts and how does that math work anyway?


In both cases, I think your formula is inaccurate.


So are you are saying 2x12 volt cells in parallel do not give 12 volts or are you saying that 2x6 volt cells in series don't give 12 volts?

I'm glad we agree the second formula is incorrect, since Big Oil = Organized crime is not true since there is no law broken (at this time). I did add the -> (which is not a formula symbol as far as I know) linking to the moral basis implied for a legal change to make the formula part true.

As with my 'math pun' on the batteries you would have to be comparing apples to oranges to assume the Big Oil = Organized crime is a valid formula.

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This is not supposed to be a political forum, nor math one, so I'll drop further discussion and go back to finishing off the taxes for this year - grumble grumble.

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Vapor_Trails, you best keep your ideas to yourself, if the NEA gets wind of what you want to do you will find it impossible to get a job teaching. Especially in CA.


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horton333 wrote:

traxtermax wrote:

horton333 wrote:

Big Oil = Organized crime -> the socialist idea: that profit is theft.

now to the real issue: is 2x6=12 volts better than 2x12= 12 volts and how does that math work anyway?


In both cases, I think your formula is inaccurate.


So are you are saying 2x12 volt cells in parallel do not give 12 volts or are you saying that 2x6 volt cells in series don't give 12 volts? I know what you meant but that’s not what you wrote. I disagreed with your first “formula” so it was easy to contest the second. I do know the difference between series and parallel circuits—or at least I did forty years ago.

I'm glad we agree the second formula is incorrect, since Big Oil = Organized crime is not true since there is no law broken (at this time). I did add the -> (which is not a formula symbol as far as I know Yea, that's a little confusing linking to the moral basis implied for a legal change to make the formula part true.So, are those controlling our public utilities socialists?

As with my 'math pun' I, too, thought this wasn’t supposed to be a math forum as you stated below on the batteries you would have to be comparing apples to oranges to assume the Big Oil = Organized crime is a valid formula.”Organized Crime” is another way of saying price manipulation/gouging, similar and comparable.

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This is not supposed to be a political forum, nor math one, so I'll drop further discussion and go back to finishing off the taxes for this year - grumble grumble.Double grumble, grumble.


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sirdrakejr wrote:

And don't start me on the CORN thing. The government MANDATED Ethanol and now SOY and WHEAT are left ungrown so the farmers can make money selling corn for fuel instead of food. You now see what affect that is having world wide. You are seeing it's affect on the food you buy as cereals and meals. The dairy industry is suffering as well since the feed costs for the cattle is driven by the use of corn for fuel. The whole market place has been upset by the congress intervention in the name of conservation


What is amazing about the corn ethanol program is the return from the process when compared to using switchgrass to make biofuels. Athough there are no biorefineries yet built that can handle cellulosic material like that which switchgrass provides, switchgrass ethanol delivers 540 percent of the energy used to produce it, compared to about 25 percent more energy returned by corn based ethanol. Wonder why the government is pushing corn ethanol.?

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