roach1 wrote: I believe the V10 upgrade is only a $500.00 option. I went from a 2000 F150 4X4 with the 5.4 to a 2002 F250 V10 4X4 and the milage was the same. I would get the V10, then you won't have any concerns and you won't have that thought in the back of your head of "should I have gotten the bigger one???????"
roach1 wrote: I believe the V10 upgrade is only a $500.00 option. I went from a 2000 F150 4X4 with the 5.4 to a 2002 F250 V10 4X4 and the milage was the same. I would get the V10, then you won't have any concerns and you won't have that thought in the back of your head of "should I have gotten the bigger one???????"
The 2000 MY 5.4L is in no way comperable to the 3 valve version that debuted in IIRC 2004. It has like 45 more hp and much more torque.
I am curous as to the gearing on a V10 that gets the same mpg as a 5.4L. My father has a 2000 F140 4X4 with 3.73's and tow package and routinely gets 14-15mpg around town. My coworker has a 2001 V10 4X4 with towpackage and gets 10-12mpg. My Dad is a mileage geek and my cworker has been doing the math to justify a motorcycle or a 4 cylinder Ranger for commuting.
Kampfirekid wrote: I have a 28 foot 6000# Jayco 26L TT that we tow 8-12X a year on an average trip of 600 miles round trip maximum. What do you think?
So you put on about 6 to 7000 miles towing. But you put on 45K per year overall. So that is 39K miles not towing your trailer.
My impression on the gas milage thing. The F250 V10 should get about similar mileage as the F150/250 5.4L V8, WHEN TOWING. Because the V10 will not work as hard...assuming rear gears are the same.
But NOT towing, I cannot see how the F250 V10 with the same rear gears, will get same mileage as F150 with the 5.4L V8. The F250 weighs a lot more. And the V10 is virtually the same motor as the 5.4L V8, with 2 additional (20% more) cylinders. Since the V10 will handle the weight of the F250 a bit better than a 5.4L would, I can't help but doubt the F250 V10 gets equal mileage to F150 V8. Maybe a 15% less MPG sounds more reasonable. My 3V V10 gets around 12 MPG around town. If a 5.4 gets 15% better mileage that would be about 14 MPG.
So for the 39,000 non-towing mileage, if the V8 gets 15% better mileage at $3.30/gallon, it costs about $1400 less for gas.
Just my 2 Cents.
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Kampfirekid wrote: I have a 28 foot 6000# Jayco 26L TT that we tow 8-12X a year on an average trip of 600 miles round trip maximum. What do you think?
So you put on about 6 to 7000 miles towing. But you put on 45K per year overall. So that is 39K miles not towing your trailer.
My impression on the gas milage thing. The F250 V10 should get about similar mileage as the F150/250 5.4L V8, WHEN TOWING. Because the V10 will not work as hard...assuming rear gears are the same.
But NOT towing, I cannot see how the F250 V10 with the same rear gears, will get same mileage as F150 with the 5.4L V8. The F250 weighs a lot more. And the V10 is virtually the same motor as the 5.4L V8, with 2 additional (20% more) cylinders. Since the V10 will handle the weight of the F250 a bit better than a 5.4L would, I can't help but doubt the F250 V10 gets equal mileage to F150 V8. Maybe a 15% less MPG sounds more reasonable. My 3V V10 gets around 12 MPG around town. If a 5.4 gets 15% better mileage that would be about 14 MPG.
So for the 39,000 non-towing mileage, if the V8 gets 15% better mileage at $3.30/gallon, it costs about $1400 less for gas.
Just my 2 Cents.
I'd say that in all, although I may have a few 600 mile round trips towing, I'll bet my yearly towing mileage is closer to 5,000 miles. My daily driving does, however, range between 45,000 and 50,000, depending on the year and jobs.
I have looked back at my fuel logs, and my 2005 F150 Screw pulled 15-16mpg daily, while my 2007 averaged 16 to 17mpg... sometimes 18. I had a V-10 in a 2003 Excursion that would get 16 on the interstate, but Excursions always get a bit better fuel economy than the Superduty, and I think the Ex has a 3.73 with the V-10, which is not available with the Superduty V-10. In all, my experience with the V-10 on jobs shows it should be about 13mpg at best for daily driving - a 14 may be expected on the highway, but not the norm for sure. The best I have heard of a 5.4L in a Crewcab Superduty is 14mpg with 13 being average, too - not much improvement over the V-10.
For the amount of towing I do vs. daily driving, the fuel savings and ride of an F150 still seem to prevail. Again, this is for the next year (12 months) only. After that, I will reconsider how well I screwed up with the Screw, or if I pulled through towing without blowing my tooter out like one of those rolled-up paper party flutes.
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I am curous as to the gearing on a V10 that gets the same mpg as a 5.4L. My father has a 2000 F140 4X4 with 3.73's and tow package and routinely gets 14-15mpg around town. My coworker has a 2001 V10 4X4 with towpackage and gets 10-12mpg. My Dad is a mileage geek and my cworker has been doing the math to justify a motorcycle or a 4 cylinder Ranger for commuting.
My V10 had 3.73's at first, then I changed them to 4.30's. I believe my F150 had 3.55's. I have a 75 mile commute and when my old truck had the 3.73's, I would get 12-13 mpg. When I went to the 4.30's, it went down to about 11-12. The best my F150 ever got in he 2 1/2 years I drove it was 14 mpg and averaged 12-13. Same exact driving......I don't why, but that was MY experience with the two different engines. For $500.00 more and mile or two less mpg, I think the V10 is a better choice.....thats just my $0.02
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Maybe a 15% less MPG sounds more reasonable. My 3V V10 gets around 12 MPG around town. If a 5.4 gets 15% better mileage that would be about 14 MPG.
