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KampingKris

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Posted: 04/24/08 04:59pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just surfing if anyone has the answer.
We just got the belts on our utility quads replaced because they were too stretched..
Now mine - used to slow way down in high when going down hills - I guess its the engine brake... Now, it doesn't sound or feel like its braking until it's at higher RPMs..
DH is not a mechanic and hasn't got a clue why that would change with just a belt. But since I enjoy my slow pace, going down hill faster is a bit alarming.
Any ideas?


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If all they did was put on new belts, there might be a significant difference (lenth/width) between the old ones and new ones causing the clutchs to work different. I'm not an expert on this BTW.


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What brand of ATV are we talking? That may help us a bit too. I am guessing you had the belt put on at a shop, or was it at home?


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Posted: 04/24/08 05:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It was at the shop. Both quads are Kawasaki utility. One is a 700 and the other one is a 650.
I didn"t think just changing the belts would make that difference
But the repair guy said the belts were very loose

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If it has an EBS system this sometimes takes a different belt than non-ebs. Was it done at a Kawasaki shop, or someone who knows about these quads? Does it move at all in gear with no gas given? Is it harder to shift coming out of park or reverse? Belts can be tricky as they need to ride between the clutch plates when your not on the gas, if they are riding on the plates this may cause some of the things I've mentioned and hurt engine braking.

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Just checked on Kawasaki's EBS system. I'm a Polaris man so mines a little different. It appears Kawasaki uses a electronic actuator to put pressure on the belt and simulate EBS. I would ask the shop that worked on your quad if they might have forgot to reattach the wiring for the electronic EBS. If all else fails you may want to shift to low range when going down hills, this will keep you under control.

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I'm not sure what the problem could be, but the best place for a technical question about quads is WWW.ATVFRONTIER.COM


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The Kawasaki system is actually a little different than most, as mentioned above it uses an electronic acutator to keep the belt engaged, thus producing the "engine" braking effect. It is actually a cool system as it avoids adding extra weight onto the sheeves like most ATVs, that is why the Kawasaki's spool up quickly and get up to speed quick. Another thing you have probably noticed when turning the key off is a electronic sound coming from the CVT area. The system measures the width of the belt each time the ATV key is turned off and adjusts how the converters engage the belt the next time. What this does is mean that engine braking effect on these ATVs should be consistent as the belt wears, where as on most ATVs, the engine braking becomes less and less effective as the belt wear increases.

There is a switch on the top of the CVT cover (inside) that can be tripped when the belt starts to come apart, the idea is that the scraps of the belt will trip the switch. This puts the unit into a safe mode that only allows it to operate at a reduced speed to get you back to the truck/camp in a limp mode. The reason for this is that if you are running in 4-wheel drive and the belt comes apart completely, the belt can lock up the converters and with the front and rear wheels connected in 4WD, the rider could get launched over the bars.

I would ensure the switch has been reset. Also you may want to check the two wires going to the K-EBC, there should be one with black connectors and another with gray connectors. Is the display flashing between "2WD" and "4WD?" If so the system needs to be reset, your dealer can do this or you can search out the proceedure on the web.

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Posted: 04/27/08 12:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

firstturn wrote:

The Kawasaki system is actually a little different than most, as mentioned above it uses an electronic acutator to keep the belt engaged, thus producing the "engine" braking effect. It is actually a cool system as it avoids adding extra weight onto the sheeves like most ATVs, that is why the Kawasaki's spool up quickly and get up to speed quick. Another thing you have probably noticed when turning the key off is a electronic sound coming from the CVT area. The system measures the width of the belt each time the ATV key is turned off and adjusts how the converters engage the belt the next time. What this does is mean that engine braking effect on these ATVs should be consistent as the belt wears, where as on most ATVs, the engine braking becomes less and less effective as the belt wear increases.

There is a switch on the top of the CVT cover (inside) that can be tripped when the belt starts to come apart, the idea is that the scraps of the belt will trip the switch. This puts the unit into a safe mode that only allows it to operate at a reduced speed to get you back to the truck/camp in a limp mode. The reason for this is that if you are running in 4-wheel drive and the belt comes apart completely, the belt can lock up the converters and with the front and rear wheels connected in 4WD, the rider could get launched over the bars.

I would ensure the switch has been reset. Also you may want to check the two wires going to the K-EBC, there should be one with black connectors and another with gray connectors. Is the display flashing between "2WD" and "4WD?" If so the system needs to be reset, your dealer can do this or you can search out the proceedure on the web.

Good luck


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Posted: 05/07/08 10:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You could ask this question at Kawieriders.com. those guys are experts, they could help you sort it out.

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