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lilhowlinwolf

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Posted: 05/01/08 06:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

GrizzlyJohnson wrote:

I don't know what national parks you're talking about but I'm guessing you don't mean west of the Rockies. In most of our western parks I'd guess no more than 10-20% of the area is accessible by car. There are even more wilderness areas in which cars are not allowed at all.


Having pavement is far too much for me. If it were up to me (you can thank your lucky stars it isn't) the roads if any would be jeep ruts or chunk rock; no improvements like electricity or flushers or showers.

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I wouldn't have originally believed this thread, but If witnessed, first hand, such utterances while camping in Smoky Mountain National Park.

A couple was actually complaining to the ranger that they needed to rake the leaves in the campground and on the trails so they didn't have to walk on wet leaves (or drag them into the TT) when it rained.

I heard this!


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retiredtraveler wrote:

I wouldn't have originally believed this thread, but If witnessed, first hand, such utterances while camping in Smoky Mountain National Park.

A couple was actually complaining to the ranger that they needed to rake the leaves in the campground and on the trails so they didn't have to walk on wet leaves (or drag them into the TT) when it rained.

I heard this!


Oh I beleive that 100%.

After a few years of camping and seeing how fanatical some folks about keeping their TT or RV clean I beleive that statement.

We were next to one couple one year, and every hour she would sweep out the trailer, even if they weren't in it. Not much of a vacation if you ask me, spending it cleaning all the time.

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I consider trailers and RVs to be "traveling", not camping. A female co-worker put it nicely - "If I wanted to be cleaning house and doing dishes, I'd have stayed home!" She and hubby rented an RV once....
I do like RV's occasionally. If I'm not "camping".

These 'biscuit heads' are amusing, but also annoying. They don't get it - the operative part of 'wilderness' is "WILD"!! If they can't deal with it, they don't belong there.
Even on the local scenic trails, say six or eight miles around a lake area, they complain because they are wearing their light sandals and casuals - not the right shoes at all! People just don't prepare for anything these days. Everything has to be "Immediate Gratification", and they must be catered to.

I heard my first wild Coyotes one night last year when camping locally - a weird sound, being surrounded by the 'songdogs', for sure! But I kinda liked it - slept well that night. I was armed, JIC - but I much prefer shooting them with my camera!

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Bigdog57 wrote:

I consider trailers and RVs to be "traveling", not camping. A female co-worker put it nicely - "If I wanted to be cleaning house and doing dishes, I'd have stayed home!" She and hubby rented an RV once....
I do like RV's occasionally. If I'm not "camping".

These 'biscuit heads' are amusing, but also annoying. They don't get it - the operative part of 'wilderness' is "WILD"!! If they can't deal with it, they don't belong there.
Even on the local scenic trails, say six or eight miles around a lake area, they complain because they are wearing their light sandals and casuals - not the right shoes at all! People just don't prepare for anything these days. Everything has to be "Immediate Gratification", and they must be catered to.

I heard my first wild Coyotes one night last year when camping locally - a weird sound, being surrounded by the 'songdogs', for sure! But I kinda liked it - slept well that night. I was armed, JIC - but I much prefer shooting them with my camera!


Coyotes won't come near humans. They're scared of us. We have plenty of them around here, we hear them on a nightly basis. We've even seen them on our front lawn before which was a bit of a shock.

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Coyotes won't come near humans. They're scared of us. We have plenty of them around here, we hear them on a nightly basis. We've even seen them on our front lawn before which was a bit of a shock.


Tell that to the children who've been attacked by coyotes recently.

Contrary to popular opinion (the first post), with out our technology we're not at the top of the food chain. We've got pretty thin skin, no claws, no sharp teeth and we're pretty weak. Really slow too.


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Too bad they missed the horse it must have been a descendent of "Tornado" Zorro's trusted steed.

As far as worrying about the apocalypse, that 10 mile piece of rock is due to hit in 2012.


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"As far as worrying about the apocalypse, that 10 mile piece of rock is due to hit in 2012."

Hmmm.... note to self - take long vacation trip to the mountains a couple days BEFORE this event!!

As to the songdogs serenading me - I figured they were letting me know I was too close to their waterhole.

A guy camping across the pond had a little yap dog, and HE was letting the songdogs know he was 'on guard'....

I figured it was a 'live bait' situation.....

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These are funny, and I believe most of them are probably serious suggestions. The sad reality is that too many people don't understand what the word "wilderness" means. For example, every year people die in Yellowstone because they approach bison or elk just to get a picture. They think its a zoo. I saw two women get chased by a male elk because the wanted a closeup.


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