Hey PatJ, city dweller here and let me tell you your method does not work. I did it once, but it was not my intent to do it. I had a ancient MH and was messing around one day and the black valve broke. About 20 gallons headed down the street. I just happened to have 100 pounds of kitty litter in the driveway, I have a BIG cat (kidding), and there was kitty litter being slung in the gutter like I was trying to plug a dam. None made it to the sewer grate but I had a hell of a mess on my hands, I found a connection at the sewer plant who took pity on me and helped me dispose of the two nasty barrels I had.
The kitty litter was around not because I have a cat, my dogs would not like that, but because I have oil spills now and then. Let me tell you a biodegradable cooking oil spill is much better than a black tank spill.
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When I built my garage where my camper lives I put in the dump station you see below and plumbed it into my septic system. As one who is rather anal (excuse the pun) about plugging up his leach field I am now concerned about just that after reading your post Brad. We don't have a garbage disposal, we use screens in the kitchen sink drains and rinse the food particles from our dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. All this to eliminate small food particles that might not sink in the septic tank and get into the leach field. As you can see we have a two section tank with I believe Ts at both the inlet and outlet. I'm not sure if these would prevent a surge from an RV dump from putting small particles into the leach field. With our fairly cold ground up here I am not so concerned about chemicals as we don't have much bacterial action anyway and we have the tank pumped every two years in the fall. Probably going to change that to every year now and in the spring. I don't think the surge from the black tank is such a big deal as our new camper only has an 18 gallon black tank. After spending a week in the mountains last week snowmobiling it was less than half full so that dump could only amount to 8 or 9 gallons. The grey tank could amount to 41 gallons so that is another matter. I could open the grey tank valve just a little and let it trickle into the system.
Any thoughts,
Chuck
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How come the turd threads always get the most posts on here? Put a motor operated gate valve on you sewer line and hit the button when you are going down the highway, noone will ever know. If cruise ships and air planes get away with it why can't we?
If you're concerned about the surge rate from a camper into the septic and possible damage to the leach field, I don't see the cesspools or the improvised septic tanks as an improvement.
I've head descriptions where people bury a 55 gallon drums with holes all over it. Congratulations, you've re-invented the cesspool. And there's a reason cesspools are banned - they don't remove waste and send it to the aquifer. I've also heard description where people used a drum as a little septic tank with it's own leach field or drain pit. Do you really think a 1500 gallon septic tank won't filter the waste properly at a camper dump rate, but a 55 gallon drum will? Guess what? Dump 20 - 30 gallons of black water into a 55 gallon drum just runs right through without any settling. IMHO, the regular septic system is far better than either of the improvised systems.
If you want a environmentally safe system, put in a sewer pump station with a basin big enough to take the entire contents of the camper tanks. The sewer pump would deliver the waste at a slow enough rate that the septic tank could treat the waste properly.
I had a guy come out and put 5 camper hookups around my Meth lab trailer in the woods. I cant see how human poop out their is ever going to reach the level of Deer, Hog, rabbit, coyote, bird and racoon poop. I think we need to bring them dam animals under control first. is their poop that diff from ours?. I am a mile from the nearest flowing water and i just cant see how my off flow will effect the enviroment. Plus i worry about the fish in the creek and river that cross my 400 acres. Are they pooping or not?
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gbutala wrote: How come the turd threads always get the most posts on here? Put a motor operated gate valve on you sewer line and hit the button when you are going down the highway, noone will ever know. If cruise ships and air planes get away with it why can't we?
How about Amtrak? man if you ever flushed a commode in an amtrak train, that blur of motion you see looking down the hole aint some macerator,
ITS THE TRACKS MAN! Thats why they tell you dont use the commodes in a station. Turd looks different when it hits their tracks at 50 mph that it does when you blast at a station!
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gbutala wrote: How come the turd threads always get the most posts on here? Put a motor operated gate valve on you sewer line and hit the button when you are going down the highway, noone will ever know. If cruise ships and air planes get away with it why can't we?
How about Amtrak? man if you ever flushed a commode in an amtrak train, that blur of motion you see looking down the hole aint some macerator,
ITS THE TRACKS MAN! Thats why they tell you dont use the commodes in a station. Turd looks different when it hits their tracks at 50 mph that it does when you blast at a station!
i heard all trains now have black tanks. bears would go on the tracks attracted by the smell, and get hit by trains. this was a big problem in canada and alaska i heard. i saw something about this on discovery channel a while back.
i had a brand new sewer line put in a few years ago, with a clean out in my front yard. the local sewer people say it can be used as long as im not using formaldahyde(sp) in my tanks.
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