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richardnm wrote:A long-time friend in the RV world told me that Fleetwood has moved the manufacturing of motor homes to Mexico. The build quality isn't going to be very good since the pay scale is from $1 to $3 per hour. Whereas the pay scale in the states was $25 to $30 per hour. Haven't read the information anywhere. True or not true?
Pure Fiction! Fleetwood has never indicated plans to move their Class A motorhome manufacturing to Mexico!
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DonSmith
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Some of our better cars are made in Mexico already. Its too bad that we can't keep the jobs, but as some above have suggested, it isn't just the cost. A friend of mine teaches oil technology for Exxon in Texas 6 months and then in Angola for 6 months. In Houston the students miss class and often fall asleep. In Angola they arrive early, stay late, ask many questions and according to my friend they are like sponges for knowledge. Some get a little too comfortable in this country. It isn't just the hourly rate.
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rvsullivan
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In general you won't find a lot of college grads working on the production floor of most manufacturers. These are jobs that are broken down to the lowest common denominator and are very repetitive. They don't require a lot of thought or personal initiative. Anyone with a little common sense and average motor skills can produce on a manufacturing line. Over the years with a booming economy the unions have been able to leverage the wages up to a level that is higher than most college professors or high school teachers and certainly higher than most middle management in high tech industries. Then when times get tough, the union workers want to keep the same high pay when the industry can no longer afford it. If companies and employee's would BOTH adjust to the changing economy, then perhaps some of these jobs could stay here. Never going to happen! If someone making $60 per hour in wages and benefits would accept a salary cut to $50 per hour, something might happen. However, they would rather lose the job and go to working in WalMart and complain about how they can't get a good job. There are no new jobs for a high school graduate that pays $60 per hour. Lots of $8 per hour jobs though.
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The road to successful families and the road to successful societies are built of a unwavering, collective commitment to sacrificing "me" for the benefit of "us". The road to failed families and the road to failed societies are built on sacrificing "us" for the benefit of "me". The United States and Canada were built by people who understood this simple reality; they are being destroyed by those who do not.
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I absolutely would NOT buy a motorhome made in Mexico. I just don't believe that you will find the quality there. I know that there are quality problems with the industry with some manufacturers, but I don't think that Mexico is a solution to quality------a solution to higher costs maybe- but not quality.
I very seriously doubt that they made a decision to move to Mexico to increase their "quality" -- they did it to build the things cheaper and avoid some of the environmental and worker safety laws that exist in the US.
They are absolutely NOT moving there to increase their quality - that's pretty comical.
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Ramblin' Cowgirl wrote:edeslaur wrote:I'm woiuldn't be so quick to align pay scale with quality, certainly not in the long run (and probably not the first year when they're being extra careful)
That pay rate down there is highly prized - you don't keep a highly prized job by delivering substandard
I totally agree with this statement!
Me too!
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bsinmich
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With that pay scale I would expect the MHs built there would cost about half of the US built ones. Fleetwood wouldn't think of keeping the excess profits, would they? Our family looks for the "Made in the USA" on things we buy and if there is a choice will always buy USA. Yes, I know my PT Cruiser was made in Mexico and has given us 6 years of great service and never been back to the dealer for service.
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david_w28
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If in fact they are moving to Mexico they will be back. Many of company's have made this move and have returned. Ford Trim in Mi chesterfield, Lionel, and many more. Wages are lower but they have a hard time getting they off the butts to put in a full days work. Enen in the trade free zone you need 5 american supervisors to one worker.
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