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juzplanekrazy

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Posted: 05/03/08 05:45pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I made all the same excuse's just like many of the guy's here are about not wanting a DRW truck. And if your only pulling a trailer in the 30' range, sure a 1tn SRW truck is probably more than enough. I was max'ed out and right on the edge on every spec there was for my last SRW truck and I pulled my trailer over 30,000 miles in a little over a year, and all that time I felt it was safe, and all that time I also knew I was fooling myself.
Well I just recently switched to a dually and only have a few hundred miles pulling my trailer. But I can tell you with all things considered the dually is far superior for pulling, anything. Period.




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Posted: 05/03/08 07:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As stated by other folks, I cannot understand the stability issue. I have towed for decades with srw and never had a stabiity issue.

as far as capacity, as i understand a dually has the same running gear as a srw 250 except springs, diff rato and tires. I also understand that the load limit on most highways on a single wheel axel is 20000 lbs if you have the licence and the tires to go with it.


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It's as simple as this. Stand with your feet shoulder width apart and have someone shove you over sideways. Now spread your feet another foot and try again.

I don't have a 5er but a 4000# camper in the bed of my truck standing 12' tall. Very top heavy. Would not be without the dually.

Yes, they are worse in the snow (that's why I have 4x4) and they are slightly more difficult to maneuver/park.

Another thing is how much hauling vs daily driving with this truck? I have a small car for a DD so the truck has the camper on for most of it's miles. If I had to use a truck for a DD I would keep mine. The extra width is no biggy once you get used to it.


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Unless you have driven both, you won't think there was any stability issues with a SRW. Maybe it isn't stability, but it is something. Big difference between the 2. Enough my wife noticed it, saying it was much smoother. But, this is with a heavy 5th wheel. Lighter ones probably won't notice as much.

The BIG difference is the payload. DRW will carry ane extra 1k+lbs, so if you have a heavy pin weight, DRW will keep the weight police happy.


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Dave H M wrote:

as far as capacity, as i understand a dually has the same running gear as a srw 250
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except springs, diff rato and tires
. I also understand that the load limit on most highways on a single wheel axel is 20000 lbs if you have the licence and the tires to go with it.


Not to be a pain, but this is quite a bit of difference between a SRW and a DRW. And no, there is not any 250/2500 truck that has the same springs/spring rates as a 350/3500 truck. The springs are different hence the higher load capacities.

What is in quotes above is enough to make a big difference in stability. I would like for someone to hook up my 5er with 3000lbs of pin weight to a SRW 3500 or 2500 for that matter and tow it and then tow with my DRW and tell me there is no difference in handling and stability.
With a smaller 5er, it probably is not an issue, when you get heavy and have a lot of weight over that axle is when it makes a huge difference.


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To illustrate the points made about rear axle and spring ratings for different trucks (1500, 2500, 3500 SRW/DRW) --

Rear axle weight ratings, per '03 & '04 Ford Superduty commercial chassis specs:
F350 SRW - 6,830 lbs
F350 DRW 5.4L gas - 9,750 lbs
F350 DRW V10 & diesel & F450 V10 - 11,500 lbs
F450 diesel & F550 - 13,500 lbs

Rear axle weight ratings, per '99-'02 Ford Superduty Pickup and Commercial Chassis specs:
F250 Pickup- 6,084 lbs
F350 SRW Pickup- 6,830 lbs
F350 DRW Pickup - 8,250 lbs
F350 SRW ChassisCab - 6,830 lbs
F350 DRW ChassisCab - 9,750 lbs
F450 ChassisCab - 11,000 lbs
F550 ChassisCab - 13,500 lbs

Rear axle weight ratings, per '98 Dodge pickup and commercial chassis specs:
1500 - 3,900 lbs
2500HD - 6,200 lbs
3500 - 7,500 lbs
2500 ChassisCab - 7,500 lbs
3500 ChassisCab - 8,000 lbs

Rear axle weight ratings, per '96 & '97 GM C/K pickup and commercial chassis specs:
1500 - 3,750 lbs
2500 - 4,800 lbs
2500 C6P - 6,084 lbs
3500 SRW - 6,084 lbs
3500 DRW - 7,500 lbs
2500 ChassisCab - 6,084 lbs
3500 SRW ChassisCab - 6,084 lbs
3500 DRW ChassisCab - 7,500 lbs (GM axle)
3500 DRW ChassisCab - 8,600 lbs (Dana axle)
3500HD ChassisCab - 11,000 lbs

Rear axle weight ratings, per '94 & '97 Ford F-series pickup and commercial chassis specs:
F150 - 3,800 lbs
F250 - 5,300 lbs
F250HD - 6,250 lbs
F350 SRW - 6,250 lbs
F350 DRW - 7,400 lbs
F350 DRW ChassisCab - 8,250 lbs
F-Superduty (450) ChassisCab - 11,000 lbs


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Posted: 05/04/08 06:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We have a dually (sig). I pulled SRW and there IS a difference. Even if the difference is all in my head that is worth it to me. This truck is also our daily driver. My wife takes it through the drive throughs at the banks and the occasional FF restaurants with no problems whatsoever. They got these things mounted to the doors...mirrors they call them...that work wonders when manuevering into tight spaces lol.


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I don't think you can compare the 2500 with a 3500. On my dodge's the 2500 drive shaft is 11" round and the 3500 is 18 1/4" round. I'm there are other differences.


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The spring rates are not the same between F350 SRW and DRW. They may very well be the same between F250 and F350 SRW though.

The above was supposed to be in reference to a quote of a previous post, somehow I messed up the quote function, sorry it didn't work out that way.

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HaulinBass02 wrote:

Dave H M wrote:

as far as capacity, as i understand a dually has the same running gear as a srw 250
Quote:

except springs, diff rato and tires
. I also understand that the load limit on most highways on a single wheel axel is 20000 lbs if you have the licence and the tires to go with it.


Not to be a pain, but this is quite a bit of difference between a SRW and a DRW. And no, there is not any 250/2500 truck that has the same springs/spring rates as a 350/3500 truck. The springs are different hence the higher load capacities.

What is in quotes above is enough to make a big difference in stability. I would like for someone to hook up my 5er with 3000lbs of pin weight to a SRW 3500 or 2500 for that matter and tow it and then

tow with my DRW and tell me there is no difference in handling and stability.
With a smaller 5er, it probably is not an issue, when you get heavy and have a lot of weight over that axle is when it makes a huge difference.


Haulin, duhhh, I thought I stsated except springs in my post.

I spose there are higher pin weights than yours but I don't now. Yours is not in the average bear category like mine.

have fun out there

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