jesterdog
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Neat story on how Brazil wants to export all its left over ethanol, but nobody will buy it...
the story here
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Tom N
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It's still cheaper to power a vehicle with oil than ethanol alcohol.
IMHO, not many want to pay more, to save our oil.
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StoneyPgh
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Can't do that; it would lower the demand for gas and gas prices would drop, along with the price of Corn Flakes and Tortillas.
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jesterdog
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They really are sitting in the cat-bird seat aren't they? They supply all the energy needs for their country...
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belfert
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Can sugar cane ethanol be transported long distances? Corn based ethanol cannot be pumped in pipelines and has to be transported in tankers.
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Bubby's RV
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belfert wrote:Can sugar cane ethanol be transported long distances? Corn based ethanol cannot be pumped in pipelines and has to be transported in tankers.
Ethanol is ethanol (at least this kind). It's when you get down to lower proofs that you start to notice a difference in taste.
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firemanmn
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If it requires more oil to produce ethanol than is benefited, how does Brazil produce it? Lose a little on each gallon and make up for it in volume? heheheh
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Bandaid
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Hi,
Brazil owes our country plenty on loans given in the past and has refused to us pay back, but they would gladly sell their surplus ethanol to us! We should buy their ethanol and give them money as we do to the oil Sheiks? However, we should learn their ethanol technology. How they are able to make the ethanol in such volume.
Another question, or statement. For years our domestic agriculture was paid not to grow crops, because the grain wasted away in silo's. We have former tobacco farmers all over the south who said they were having to go out of business because of no crops to grow and drive down any rural road and see for yourself many farm fields laying fallow
Last year my wife and I took a trip across the southern US and found numerous historical references to rice and sugar plantations. Where are they today? Furthermore, two years ago we were in Hawaii and all we heard from the tour bus drivers was how low labor costs and prices have shut down all of the sugar plantations and pineapple farmers. Isn't there a need to rebuild their industry?
It seems that we are our worst enemies when it comes to figuring out who is too blame for the rising fuel and food prices! Would it be too much to ask that money destined for foreign soils be spent here, developing genetically engineered sugar,sugar beets, and other high sugar crops to grow in our climates and support the ethanol technology. We surely don't need to try and buy more friendship form other countries!
For years our farmers complained about loosing their farms because there was no market for their crops and prices were too low. Now they have a market, actually two! Develop and plant the crops that will break some of our dependence on foreign imports. At the same time, plant the grains that we need to feed ourselves!
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Matthew_B
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firemanmn wrote:If it requires more oil to produce ethanol than is benefited, how does Brazil produce it? Lose a little on each gallon and make up for it in volume? heheheh
That's not even true on corn ethanol. Corn ethanol production takes 4 gallons of diesel to make 5 gallons ethanol.
But sugar cane ethanol comes out way ahead.
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