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Dave&Sue

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Posted: 05/04/08 09:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you look at the video from Clint Boyers car you can clearly see Dale come down into Kyle and start to push him over (can see whole left side of Kyles car) just short track racing somebody has to loose


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Which video??? The one that shows Busch turning up into Jr.?? Car wheels do not turn themselves.


Of course, it's the driver who turns the steering wheel. But, all of us who have driven racecars know that it becomes an instinctive reaction to turn into the slide whenever your car is "loose"(under steering) while in a turn. Haven't you ever seen dirt cars, they're in that posture all the time, even when by themselves. Kyle reacted and turned to the right in order to keep from spinning out. That's what a driver does, and Jr knows this. I can attest to this, this is me:




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We definitely intend to watch Dave. The Rockingham race is on, as I type. I am really interested in seeing the Logano kid race.

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Posted: 05/04/08 10:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Regardless of your position, this is good for racing. Controversy sells. As noted, I loved Mark Martin who never won a championship. The reason, he was not aggresive enough. Dale Sr won 7 because he was an aggresive driver and people love it and him including me. I cryed watching the race that killed him. Love him or hate him, you loved to see Dale Sr race. I believe in time, the same will be said of Kyle Bush. He is easy to dislike because he has no clue how to handle himself. However, he maybe the best talent "long term" in nascar.

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Of course, it's the driver who turns the steering wheel. But, all of us who have driven racecars know that it becomes an instinctive reaction to turn into the slide whenever your car is "loose"(under steering) while in a turn.


Well, any of "you" who have driven race cars who admit to having an "instinctive reaction" ought to be penalized when "it" causes problems for others. There is more than one race car on the track, and as such there is no room for instinctive reactions, only clean driving.


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I believe someone has misunderstood the Kyle Bush remark after the Nationwide race Saturday night. I think he was referring to Steven Wallace about the wrecking remark. Ronnie

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dylansmom wrote:

Cloud Dancer wrote:



Of course, it's the driver who turns the steering wheel. But, all of us who have driven racecars know that it becomes an instinctive reaction to turn into the slide whenever your car is "loose"(under steering) while in a turn.


Well, any of "you" who have driven race cars who admit to having an "instinctive reaction" ought to be penalized when "it" causes problems for others. There is more than one race car on the track, and as such there is no room for instinctive reactions, only clean driving.


That's not the way it works with NASCAR. HOWEVER, if you were to be racing at El Paso Speedway Park, back when I owned it and I was the operator/promoter, it's a matter of record that you would be instructed that there was a rule that stated: Whenever a driver attempts a pass, it shall be the responsibility of the overtaking driver to execute a clean pass.
Bottom line: If you believe that you can change the way NASCAR runs their show,.... have at it. It helps to know the rules of the game,....the one you're playing. You can use them to YOUR advantage.

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Only two things change things at NASCAR. Someone/something with money and race related deaths.

So until big and rich sponsors get tired of the antics of some, who shall remain nameless, and demand something be done (which most likely won't happen) or until the antics of some, again who shall remain nameless, actually kill someone, nothing will be changed. A little melodramatic?? Perhaps, but you get my drift.

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You Busch fans can spin this however you want. I am well familiar with turning to the right when a car gets loose, however if you watch the video closely, the sudden jerk of the wheel into the side of Jr's car is quite apparent. Sure Jr. pinched down close, but he never once drove his car into Busch. I would be saying the same thing regardless if the other driver is Jr., Jeff Gordon, Kasey Kahne, or any other racer. It is just a prime example of Shrub's underhanded tactics. Not even close to just "good, hard, racing".

Hopefully Shrub gets booted next time. I do not wish for him to get hurt, but for him to get spun out and a DNF would be quite appropriate for his repeated antics on the track.


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Nascarcruzin wrote:

I believe someone has misunderstood the Kyle Bush remark after the Nationwide race Saturday night. I think he was referring to Steven Wallace about the wrecking remark. Ronnie


Regardless if he was referring to Steven Wallace, Shrub has made his intentions to wreck anyone who gets in his way perfectly clear.

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