bustersbud
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Here in Ontario we are supposed to have an endorsement on our license for air brakes and a special license for coaches that weigh over 24,200 lbs. Not many actually have them and nobody checks, but that is the law. Does anyone else need special licensing to drive air brake heavier coaches?
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chuck4788
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Nevada does, same thresholds as the US CDL; >26k=Class B, Trailer >10k=Class A.
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lmcgill
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I had to get an air endorsement on my BC drivers license. It involved taking a 16 hour course and taking two tests. According to our Province run insurence agency, they may not check it, but if you are involved in a accident, your policy may not cover you.
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bmerpaw
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When I checked with our local Ontario lisence office they told me that it was required only if the vehicle was commercial.
Hey bustersbud, am I being lead down the wrong path?
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VintageRacer
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In Ontario the Z endorsement (air brakes) is a big deal. That's because we don't have CDL's, just drivers licenses. The two significant licenses are D and A class - basically any weight straight truck, and tractor trailer. What is happening is that someone shows up with a pickup truck and his buddies fifth wheel, gets the A class, takes the class and writes the Z endorsement, and the next day is pushing a tractor trailer rig or a 60K lb dump truck with essentially no training and zero experience, except his bother-in-law knows a guy who runs construction. They really watch out for that.
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Deen
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Nothing here in Washington, RV's are specifically exempted from needing anything but a standard license.
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OntMontana
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bmerpaw wrote:When I checked with our local Ontario lisence office they told me that it was required only if the vehicle was commercial.
Hey bustersbud, am I being lead down the wrong path?
Bill
This might be helpful:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/classes.htm
I had a Class A when I was towing a big 5er. Downgraded to Class D now that I am driving a motorhome with GVWR (total weight) of 10,000 kgs but with a GCWR (combined weight) of 11,820 kgs (coach @ 10,000 kgs + Jeep Liberty @ 1,820 kgs). Our coach does not have air brakes so no Z endorsement is required.
Re people who work at MTO offices, the number of opinions as to what is required = the number of people who work in the office. I have always gone by a narrow interpretation of the requirements - everyone you talk to believes he/she has discovered a loophole that exempts him/her from having the proper license - and have never been concerned that my insurance company will deny a claim because I am driving a vehicle for which I am not legally licensed.
Bill
* This post was
edited 05/05/08 12:33pm by OntMontana *
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frankdamp
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We're considering getting a DP. Canada (BC and Alberta) will probably be regular destinations.
I have a Washington CDL with airbrake and passenger endorsements, as I was a transit driver for a couple of years. Since I'm not currently in that job, I haven't kept my medical certificate current.
Does anyone know if those jurisdictions requiring the endorsement will also require the medical cert to be current?
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OntMontana
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frankdamp wrote:We're considering getting a DP. Canada (BC and Alberta) will probably be regular destinations.
I have a Washington CDL with airbrake and passenger endorsements, as I was a transit driver for a couple of years. Since I'm not currently in that job, I haven't kept my medical certificate current.
Does anyone know if those jurisdictions requiring the endorsement will also require the medical cert to be current?
In Ontario, if your medical certification for a Class A license is not current, they automatically reduce it to a Class D.
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69RoadRunner
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One state cannot impose its licensing laws on people from other states. For example, VA doesn't require anything special and doesn't have non-CDL class A licenses. If another state requires me to have a non-CDL class A license, it would be impossible for me to do that.
CDL requirements are different since there is Federal involvement.
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