Sea Dog, send me a PM with a complete description of the truck and the miles and I can give you a realistic w/s value. Then you can just argue with the dealer about how much they are going to make.
As far as salesman turn over is concerned, most car salespersons in this area have been with the same dealer for many years.
If the truck is as clean as it appears in the pictures, it would bring $10-11,000 wholesale. That would be the value in the Midwest of the US. It would be interesting to know what the premium is for units sold in Canada.
JALLEN4 wrote: If the truck is as clean as it appears in the pictures, it would bring $10-11,000 wholesale. That would be the value in the Midwest of the US. It would be interesting to know what the premium is for units sold in Canada.
Who cares about wholesale, this is retail here. What good is wholesale value to the poor woman, unless she's a dealer. She's already wasted the valuable time of the salesman, trying to get some sort of unknown discount.
Why should a retail customer expect to further chisel a poor dealer salesman that has already given a discount, works seven days a week, Holidays, and is pulling minimum wage w/o the sale?
I'd advise her giving at least $16K for it. Have a little compassion for the salesman, and let him make the $500.00, after all he's trying to feed his family.
I have a sweet tender nature, however I enjoy sharing my thoughts and opinions.
Didn't read through all the responses, but if you really liked the truck, wait a week. If it's still there, take $14,000 cash or cashiers check and say, "Here's my best offer." I can guarantee you that when they sell that truck, they are making 3 to 4 grand at least on the trade in price they gave. Good luck.
jlynn721 wrote: Didn't read through all the responses, but if you really liked the truck, wait a week. If it's still there, take $14,000 cash or cashiers check and say, "Here's my best offer." I can guarantee you that when they sell that truck, they are making 3 to 4 grand at least on the trade in price they gave. Good luck.
Actually, he told me that the previous owner is a very good long time customer who trades every two years.
For this reason, the give hime top dollar for his trade and therefor cannot slip much on the price.
Well, it sounds good anyway.
This dealer is a small rural town dealer who has beeen in business for over fifty years.
He is however only an hours drive from several major centers including Toronto, so his prices must be competitive or he could not last.
jlynn721 wrote: Didn't read through all the responses, but if you really liked the truck, wait a week. If it's still there, take $14,000 cash or cashiers check and say, "Here's my best offer." I can guarantee you that when they sell that truck, they are making 3 to 4 grand at least on the trade in price they gave. Good luck.
I am starting to consider a small truck.
I dont` really need a full sized pickup anyway.
Anyone had experience with the little trucks?
I am not really a Chrysler guy so will probably not consider the Dakota.
Probably a Ranger or the GM equivilant.
The imports seem kind of pricey
topflite51 wrote: When I am in the market for a vehicle, I simply take my wife along. She knows how to make a penney scream.
I do the same thing. My wife doesn't let logic and reason get in the way while negotiating. I have actually said to the salesman "don't feel so bad, I have to go home with her." Sometimes they give us the deal out of pity for me.
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topflite51 wrote: When I am in the market for a vehicle, I simply take my wife along. She knows how to make a penney scream.
I agree, women are much better shoppers and can bargain with the best of them. Two years ago, I took my wife's Infiniti sedan in to a Nissan dealer for some warranty work because the nearest Infiniti dealer is 200 miles away, they said no way, it had to go back to the dealer. A couple of days later my wife took the car back to the Nissan dealer and charmed them into doing the work! She had no problem.
The best you can do is do your homework and know what the vehicle is worth.
When I bought my vette they were asking $39K for a 2 year old with 12K miles. I knew it would probably sell for $35K normally. I just said they were asking too much. The salesman asked what I thought it was worth. Well this is where it gets interesting.
I intentially low balled the bid thinking DW would never agree so I said $30K.
The salesman said "no way!"
I told him that in the past 5 years we had bought 2 trucks, the wife's Tracker, My dad bought his truck, and my sister bought her car from them. My family spent a lot of money there.
Salesman went to ask sales manager. Manager came out and it turns out he was the one we bought our two other cars from.
He looked at me and said OK we will do it.
The color drained from DW's face.
Well That was 6 years ago, 112K miles later and I have enjoyed every mile and it is still my daily driver.
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What good is wholesale value to the poor woman, unless she's a dealer.
She's already wasted the valuable time of the salesman, trying to get some sort of unknown discount.
