clokman
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My ignorance is explained by my post count! I have an 07 Tundra 4.7l rated for 7800 lbs. and want to tow a Cougar Lite 29FKS that weighs 6080 (ok so far). The sticker on my truck (PSI sticker, not the placard)says max cargo is 1255. That number seems low since Curb is 5400 and GVWR is 6900, but I will go with the 1255. I dont really see a problem with the UVW of 6080, but the hitch weight is a whopping 965 lbs... before I've loaded anything. With a proper WD set up wont I still be putting 600 to 700 lbs "on the truck", leaving me with only 500 to 600 for passengers and cargo? I never thought about hitch weight being a deal killer...is it?
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Your truck will be overloaded when you hitch up, after you add a driver and other cargo. The 5400 curb weight is likely for a stripper model of that truck.
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You're correct, you're overweight. If you want to be sure, load up the truck with fuel and pax and go weigh it. Then add the GVWR of your TT and that'll give you your answer. FWIW: Even if you are within your weight limits, with such a small V-8 and no data on what rear end you have, the weight of your TT coupled with the wind drag and terrain will leave you very disappointed in your truck's towing ability I'm sure.
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You will have at least 1000-1200# of tongue weight if not more. Not a good idea on that truck.
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The "Front Kitchen" design is notoriously very hitch heavy. I'm not sure if you already own this trailer or if you're just looking to get it. If you're looking - check out some with a mid or rear kitchen...as these tend to be in the 10-15% hitch weight range not the 20-30% for the front kitchen design. If you already have it and still need to tow it, a couple of things you can do to "lose" some hitch weight are packing as much of your "stuff" toward the rear of the trailer as you can...also if the on-board water tank is BEHIND the axles - put some water in it (WATCH GVWR) - this will provide some ballast in the rear of the trailer and take some of your hitch weight away.
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I really appreciate your help. It was very late at the dealership last night and I agreed on a price but did not finish the deal. I looked at the UVW sticker but forgot all about hitch weight. I wonder why the saleman didnt say anything? . I will have to redo this deal with a better suited trailer. Am I wrong to think I am ok with a UVW of around 6000 or less if the truck is rated to 7800 and I stay around 4-500 at the hitch (2 people and some gear, factory tow pkg, 4.10 gear set)?
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Your trailer will be close to 3-1/2 tons when that trailer is loaded even if you don't exceed the Gross Combined Weight Rating (loaded truck plus loaded trailer) or Rear Axle Weight Rating, and you will not like pulling that weight with the 4.7. It is a strong little engine, but it is what it is. You will be very slow merging into traffic or climbing any rise. Re-think your trailer choice.
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clokman wrote:Am I wrong to think I am ok with a UVW of around 6000 or less if the truck is rated to 7800 and I stay around 4-500 at the hitch...
You will be very hard pressed to find a trailer that has a UVW around 6000# and only a hitch weight of 4-500#. Most trailers, in order to tow well and stable, have to have a hitch weight of 10-15% of the trailer GVW. That means that 6000# trailer should have a tongue weight of 600-900#. If you want to limit your tongue weight to around 4-500# then you are going to have to look at lighter trailers.
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More truck or less trailer is the solution.....
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Well what I meant to reference was a hitch weight of 4-500 with the WD, which would mean a listed hitch weight of 6-700. I may be all wrong about that, but dont you figure some (20-30%) of the hitch wt going back to the trailer axles with WD? Of course the overall weight is still there, its just not all counting against the "cargo" capacity of the truck, but rather against the GCCW. Please correct me if I have this wrong.
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