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jsmmv

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Posted: 05/13/08 08:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I did it last summer no exhaust brake with a 97 Ford F-250 Dieselw/auto trans. and a Lance 835. I would have no problem doing it again. Just put it in 2nd gear and go slow.
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If you have a automatic I would skip it. I have been over it many times with a heavier load but I have a six speed and exhaust brake. I weight in at right around 12,000.

I should also add that if you are headed home, take the road. It will show you what a CTD can do and pump your trucks ego quite a bit. You won't have to worry about your brakes headed West.

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Posted: 05/13/08 08:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Yes, 06 48re automatic with tow haul.

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If you are running an automatic I would say no way, can do it in a manual if you slow down before the grade. Most people into trouble after they have started going down. Also stopping a couple times to let the brakes cool helps a lot. It does have a few very steep spots there but doable in my truck at a full load of 9300 pounds.

When I came down from the top of Pikes Peak in Colorado last summer there is a check point where the rangers check the brake temperature with an infrared scanner, I was told my brakes wear great considering my weight and let go on, there were other cars parked there waiting for their brakes to cool after they had passed me coming down. The tortoise won that round with the rabbit...


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Posted: 05/13/08 09:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Smart move not to do it. No use tearing the brakes up or have them fade where they will not hold. Not many places to pull over. Take another Hwy and save your vehicle for more trips. 28% is S T E E P!!!!


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I'll end up renting a car to make the trip over the pass. Tenting camping under the stars may be a nice change of pace.

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What does an automatic have to do with it? I can select almost any gear just the manual. How does the manual create more braking power?


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Mooney wrote:

What does an automatic have to do with it? I can select almost any gear just the manual. How does the manual create more braking power?


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snowranger wrote:

Yes, 06 48re automatic with tow haul.

Wait, does this function anything like Tow/Haul in the Alison/DMax combo?

If so, stick it in low gear and tow/haul and let the motor keep your speed down. My truck has no exhaust brake, but the computer changes the injector timing so that the engine generates plenty of back pressure. More than enough to hold the truck with camper and wrangler in tow at the speed I want. It works just as well as if it were a manual.

We did the Sonoran pass West to East - it is steep and twisty, but very picturesque. Going slow lets you -- and all those behind you -- take in the scenery!

And my brakes did not get hot.

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Don is right on but I am sure we will hear some comments from Allison owners. Until the guy across the street lets me give his dmax a workout on some steep grades I remain a unbeliever.

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