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booster

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Posted: 05/14/08 07:03pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"Six figures on the odometer are no reason to reject a vehicle these days. There are a lot of 'em out there running around that are approaching seven digits (if the odometer has that)."

You must be counting the 1/10 mile indicator. I don't know if I have ever seen any motorhome even near 500K miles, much less a million miles.

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Hey charles...yes..the Excel TD is on my list....as is the RT 210 pop. I don't think I'll get everything I want, so the 4x4 (really, I'm looking for clearance I think....just want to save my...erm...bottom on forest roads really!) might have to go...or come later.

And thanks for the link-up Heather! It is sweet, isn't it!??

More power (literally) to anyone who doesn't mind 6 figures on the odometer. But it's not for me!


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Why can't RoadTrek and PlesaureWay build a van like the Coach House 192 SD, with the same layout?

At least PleasureWay has a privacy bathroom in their Chevy Lexor more than what the RoadTrek Chevy 190 has.



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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, I'll keep my PW TS! Just wish it had four wheel drive.

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No, booster, I wasn't adding the tenths. I know of many vehicles close to a million miles these days. Ask your police car drivers, contract mail deliverers and truckers, among others.


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I think we need to be very careful of what vehicles we compare when trying to predict useful life and reliability. There is a huge difference between a Greyhound style bus that was designed to go 1 million miles and a class B motorhome that is a commercial van that is running almost on its maximum design weight. All the examples you listed are vehicles that run nearly continuously, which can easily triple the life of a vehicle. Short trips, occasional use, etc will change everything.

As I said, I don't think you will find many of our style motorhomes that are anywhere near the 1 million mark. I watch the ads all the time and don't even remember seeing one any higher than the low 200s. I, also, would be somewhat reluctant to go much beyond 100K if I was looking for a solid, reliable unit, unless it had been totally redone.

Susan, I think your thought process on the mileage is right on.

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You weren't specific until after I responded to your general observation on durability. I, too, haven't seen many factory made motorhomes that would approach 1 million miles. Likely never will due to the tradeoff of what it would cost to manufacture that kind of reliability. My point was not to let odometer readings dictate reliability. An indicator, yes, but maintenance records and just general appearance are stronger indicators of what service life is left in the vehicle. My van now has 108K on the odometer. I'm sure we'll make it to 200K without any great expense or problems. And think of all the fuel that will buy over having to have "newer."

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CrusinSusan wrote:

I recently discovered the Coach House 192SD - but boy are they rare; and I wasn't able to get in on this ebay auction. What I love about it: it's got the enclosed bath, and in the rear are 2 twins...BUT, one of those twins works as a dinette! Thus, to me, there is more "psychological space": enclosed bathroom, "dining room", "bedroom", (and both put together are the "family room" ) plus the galley and driving area.

PERFECT!


www.ebay.com ....see: Item number: 140230350912 (link was waaaayyy to long, and I've yet to get my butt over to the tech forum)

Check out the third row of pics, second pic in to see the rear setup I'm talking about.

I could work with this! (Less mileage and more clearance - maybe a 4x4 added, and I'd be in heaven.)

So, do tell...what is your perfect B for soloing? (Yes, I'm a sneaky thing....gathering ideas

PS: if ya find one of these things...do drop me a PM.

Susan, I also just love that rear layout. But I have a question for all of you after checking out that photo. The bed appears to be at least 30 to 32" wide and the dinette looks like it was build for two side by side, so it is at least 32". The aisle between them must be about 16", that is an interior width of 78 to 80". I just measured the interior width of my RT 190P and it is only 73". Was the interior width of the old Dodges and Fords wider than the current Chevy Express models? If my dimensions are even close, I do not see how you could get this floor plan to fit in the current "B's". In the RT 190P, the two rear beds are only 27" wide and the interior width of a Sprinter is even narrower than the Chevy Express.

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* This post was edited 05/15/08 05:21pm by loving retirement *

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Oh Don, I don't know....interesting question...but I don't trust my visual-measurement skills enough to know what the width is.

I look forward to responses to that though. Should be interesting.

Hmmm....I *think* I recall seeing another one of these (on the day I discovered this one ...and I no longer can find it), that had the twin laid out to meet the seats of the dinette...but the memory is vague. So, *maybe* the twin is so narrow that in order to use it, you have to extend it (somehow??). Could be the twin is narrower that what we see in newer models....which I guess would preclude using it as a permanent bed...which would then defeat my purpose. Couldn't use the dinette with the bed made up. Or, maybe my imagination is running wild!

But hopefully, someone more knowledgeable will chime in.

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Not to start a pithing match, but please don't put words in my mouth (or remove them):

"You weren't specific until after I responded to your general observation on durability."

My post mentioned motorhomes specifically: very specific

"I don't know if I have ever seen any motorhome even near 500K miles, much less a million miles."

Your post was in response to a statement about 100K plus B's and you said:

"Six figures on the odometer are no reason to reject a vehicle these days. There are a lot of 'em out there running around that are approaching seven digits (if the odometer has that)"

It is highly unlikely any of us are looking for a Greyhound bus or an 18 wheeler, so how were we supposed to interpret this? (in a class b forum)

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