I put the hard start kit in my Duo Therm 13.5, $47 and very easy install. Hayes Equipment http://www.hayesequipment.com/yamaha_generators/ef2400is.htm ran a load bank test and the ef2400 held 25amps for up to 10 secs. Got hot today so when I got home fired the generator, ac, TV and DVD player and let it run. Outside temp was 95 and 97 inside, cooled down to temp setting of 76 and cycled just like a champ. I figure if the Duo Term burns out, it will be less expense to buy a new and more efficient ac unit. The guy at Duo Therm isn't the guy that has to lift 140lbs of generator into my truck or put up with the additional noise or fuel usage. You can bet that my next ac will probably not be Duo Therm. They have the technology to make ac units for little extra expense to work with today's generators and don't. So far, I love the Yamaha ef2400, JMHO Good luck with what ever you decide to do.
I bought a 2008 Prowler with a 13.5k BTU AC about a month ago, and based on the advice I read here, I bought a 2400is generator to run it. Temps this weekend were mid 90's and I found that my generator doesn't have enough umph to start the AC. I plugged into a contractor grade 4000 (Honda) and that didn't sweat starting it up at all. I ran the AC for 15 minutes on that, shut it down, waited a few minutes, then tried again to start it with my generator. No luck. So right now I have an $1100 generator with 20 hours on it (and one oil change) that won't do what I need it to. I've heard about some sort of soft-start mod that can be done to an AC...I'm guessing that will void any warranty on it, but it might be worthwhile (as opposed to selling this generator at a loss and spending even more to get a couple Honda 2000's which have less run-time capacity per fill-up).
I'm guessing I can't parallel a Yamaha 1000 into the 2400is, right? I read in the other 13.5/2400is something about having to put "the convertor on the same side (50 amp)" Does anyone know what that means? I'd like to try all reasonable options available before I start looking to replace a brand new generator.
Blues,
Dave
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I chickened out this morning and bought the Honda EU 3000 from Wise. The extra $650 stings and I'll probably throw my back out moving it, but I figured I'm not rich enough to have to buy something twice if the first one doesn't do what I need it to do.
BTW, if anyone is debating buying a generator, the manager I talked to after ordering to thank them for their time answering all my questions told me that I made a good decision to buy when I did. He said all the Yamahas and Honda units will soon be seeing a 10-15% increase in price nationally based on the dollar weakening. Said the manufacturers have told them to start preparing for it now caus its coming this summer. So if you wait, you could be looking at an extra couple hundred dollars for that same generator.
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I installed my new carrier 13500 unit a week ago. My new 2400 would not run it I hooked it up to the house power and let it cycle on and off for a day. Now the 2400 has no problem running it! I also have ordered a starting cap for it http://arnoldservice.com/compressor_hard_start_boosters.htm - supposed to make it even easier -
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livendive wrote: I bought a 2008 Prowler with a 13.5k BTU AC about a month ago, and based on the advice I read here, I bought a 2400is generator to run it. Temps this weekend were mid 90's and I found that my generator doesn't have enough umph to start the AC. I plugged into a contractor grade 4000 (Honda) and that didn't sweat starting it up at all. I ran the AC for 15 minutes on that, shut it down, waited a few minutes, then tried again to start it with my generator. No luck. So right now I have an $1100 generator with 20 hours on it (and one oil change) that won't do what I need it to. I've heard about some sort of soft-start mod that can be done to an AC...I'm guessing that will void any warranty on it, but it might be worthwhile (as opposed to selling this generator at a loss and spending even more to get a couple Honda 2000's which have less run-time capacity per fill-up).
I'm guessing I can't parallel a Yamaha 1000 into the 2400is, right? I read in the other 13.5/2400is something about having to put "the convertor on the same side (50 amp)" Does anyone know what that means? I'd like to try all reasonable options available before I start looking to replace a brand new generator.
Blues,
Dave
I am in a similar boat.
On the first real test, the Yamaha could'nt turn over the AC. I also realized from reading this thread that I had my reefer on auto. I'll try a quick test later to see if running it on propane will allow me to get the AC going. I'll be adding the capacitor, as I really want the Yamaha to work. It's pretty quiet, and its light enough to lift on my own. If I can't get it to work, I will be very sad.
As with Dave above, I wondered if I could parallel with a 1000 to get the juice I need? Also, I saw someone say they let their AC cycle all day in order to get it to work? Is there a break in period on an AC? I suspect my AC has been on 10 hours straight sofar, is it broken in?
SkullAndSquirrel wrote: I am in a similar boat.
On the first real test, the Yamaha could'nt turn over the AC. I also realized from reading this thread that I had my reefer on auto. I'll try a quick test later to see if running it on propane will allow me to get the AC going. I'll be adding the capacitor, as I really want the Yamaha to work. It's pretty quiet, and its light enough to lift on my own. If I can't get it to work, I will be very sad.
As with Dave above, I wondered if I could parallel with a 1000 to get the juice I need? Also, I saw someone say they let their AC cycle all day in order to get it to work? Is there a break in period on an AC? I suspect my AC has been on 10 hours straight sofar, is it broken in?
Thanks
SS
I did think to turn the fridge to gas, and turned off the water heater and pump (the latter just having a red light in the switch drawing juice). I couldn't figure out how to switch off the converter, but my batteries were fully charged so it shouldn't have been drawing much (?). I called my dealership today and asked them to get me a cap kit for whatever model they sold me (my trailer is 85 miles from home and I didn't write it down). Looking at the mfg's website and googling though, I'm thinking it came with the hard start kit already installed (Model RVP 8333D8564). If so, running it awhile on a contractor generator or bringing it home to plug into the house for a week seem to be my last two options before I'm replacing/supplementing my generator. So far I've got maybe 20 minutes of the AC running, so I'm pretty sure I haven't completed any break-in period.
I have a coleman mach III, and my 2400is wouldn't run my 13,5 AC. I had to put the hard start kit in the unit, and it works like a champ.
I put the 2400 on both of my BIL's Dometics and it worked out of the box. One was an older dometic and one was a new one. It was in the 90's and it cycled without a problem.
Why my coleman didn't work without the hard start kit, I don't know.
In retrospect, if I was going to do it over, I might go with the two honda's in lieu of one yamaha. Don't get me wrong. I love my yamaha. But, it won't pump gas as the Hondas will for a long duration tank. It is lighter than my yamaha. Most of the time, I don't run the A/C - except for a week or so each summer in Yosemite. Short of that, it's cool enough to get by with my fantastic fans.
By the way, with the hard start, at 4400 feet of elevation, my AC starts and works fine on my yamaha!
"I installed my new carrier 13500 unit a week ago."
Ouuch! I hope you did your homework and bought one of the low-energy ones instead of a "regular" air conditioning unit - since you were buying anyway?
I'll bet the Honda 2000 will handle a low-energy 13.5K BTU air con just fine.
All the complaining/questions about the 2000 Honda running 13,500 BTU air cons are most likely referring to the units most MH manufacturers supply standard on their rigs, as the low energy models at equivalent BTU capacities cost a bit more.
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weissmand wrote: In retrospect, if I was going to do it over, I might go with the two honda's in lieu of one yamaha. Don't get me wrong. I love my yamaha.
Hehe, there is nothing quite like that sinking feeling as your family watches and the brand new Yamaha you talked them into can't start your AC.
I'm sure the hard start cap will do the trick. I just wish it worked right out of the box so I could bask in the moment of glory.
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I also have ordered a starting cap for it http://arnoldservice.com/compressor_hard_start_boosters.htm - supposed to make it even easier -
