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davelinde

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On the way home today I stopped at Home Depot... the plumbing guy told me that the plastic tubing needs brass inserts - so I got them. When I pulled apart the first tee I noticed that ferrules were smashed a little oval. I replaced the ferrules too and this time assembled the tee finger tight then aired it up. Then I just barely touched each connection to stop the audible hiss of air. After that I soaped it and had to touch one more just a little to stop the slow leak.

Pressure testing it now... fingers crossed. BTW glad to hear the push fittings can be re-used if needed.


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Posted: 06/23/08 07:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So the Timbrens appear so simple to install and are priced less then the Firestone products.

How effective are they at reducing "squat" due to 5th wheel towing? I am interested in this and they appear that any driveway mechanic can install them for about $170.


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On the Chevrolet the ride rites are VERY easy to install. You simply remove the bump stops and use those holes. The only drilling is next to the licence plate to insert the schrader valve. Price diff , probably $50. Get the bags. I won't tow without them. Better ride quality than timbrens and infinitely adjustable for load. It does take some experimenting while loaded to find the perfect air pressure. I have a costco 12volt compressor that works great for this. When you put them in air them up to 50lbs for 24 hours, helps seal all lines and prevent leaks (tip from installer).

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I just installed the Pacbrake airbags. FAR superior to the Riderites. Easy install & got them for $240 shipped off of ebay. The Timbren's will not level your ride, they are like long bumpstops that allow the truck to only sag so much. Timbren's will not level truck back up. For those of you that have not purchased yet, but are considering, go with the Pacbrakes. You won't be disappointed.


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If I hadn't decided I wanted both bags fed from one valve they would have been a snap to install. Even with my tee connection issues I'd still rate this a pretty simple install to do. For the few extra $$'s I think the adjustable bags are worth it over the timbrens. I had not heard of Pacbrake bags... in what way are they superior?

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LFD2037 wrote:

I just installed the Pacbrake airbags. FAR superior to the Riderites. Easy install & got them for $240 shipped off of ebay. The Timbren's will not level your ride, they are like long bumpstops that allow the truck to only sag so much. Timbren's will not level truck back up. For those of you that have not purchased yet, but are considering, go with the Pacbrakes. You won't be disappointed.


The Timbrens will bring the rear of the truck back up. Do a search in the towing section and you will see lots of post on Timbrens and air bags. Air bags are probably but the best but the Timbrens will do a good job. Have seen trucks that use both.
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LFD2037 wrote:

I just installed the Pacbrake airbags. FAR superior to the Riderites. Easy install & got them for $240 shipped off of ebay. The Timbren's will not level your ride, they are like long bumpstops that allow the truck to only sag so much. Timbren's will not level truck back up. For those of you that have not purchased yet, but are considering, go with the Pacbrakes. You won't be disappointed.


LFD2037 - I am a tad new to the modifications to suspensions to reduce rear sag due to pin weight but it seems from all I read, including the Timbren's website, that it is indeed meant to "level" the ride. It achieves this in a different manner then airbags but from what I have read they are pretty effective, quicker to install, cost less and have no real parts/fittings that can leak.

I'm not saying they are better, but I do believe they reduce rear sag by alot and increase the handling characteristics of a loaded truck. Can someone inform or correct me on this?

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Does anyone know how easy they are to install if you have the under bed mounting bracket for the hitch in the same location as the air bags go? Are there any holes that have to be drilled in the frame of the truck? I would like to install bags on my truck but, have been wondering how they will go on being that I have the brackets for the hitch mounted under the bed of the truck.


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Most of these units are drill free from what I have read and about a hour worth of labor. The only drilling is for the actual line fitting to fill the bags. Timbrens are zero drill installation and take about 40 minutes.

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Duck wrote:

LFD2037 wrote:

I just installed the Pacbrake airbags. FAR superior to the Riderites. Easy install & got them for $240 shipped off of ebay. The Timbren's will not level your ride, they are like long bumpstops that allow the truck to only sag so much. Timbren's will not level truck back up. For those of you that have not purchased yet, but are considering, go with the Pacbrakes. You won't be disappointed.


The Timbrens will bring the rear of the truck back up. Do a search in the towing section and you will see lots of post on Timbrens and air bags. Air bags are probably but the best but the Timbrens will do a good job. Have seen trucks that use both.
Don


How will Timbrens, w/no moving parts, bring a rearend BACK up? I have extensive knowledge in suspensions. I do know what I'm talking about. All the Timbrens do is not let the rear go further down than the length of the Timbren when it is compressed. If your truck sits high in the rear when empty, the Timbrens might only allow your rear to go down 'till it is level. If your truck sits level unloaded or if you have put a leveling kit on the front of your truck, like I have, when you put a load on it, even w/ Timbrens, the rear will sit lower than the front. If you have airbags & you put a load on it the rear will drop. THEN, you put enough air in the bags to make it sit level. The only way Timbrens MIGHT make your truck sit level after loaded is if your front sits low enough, & the Timbrens are long & stiff enough, to keep the rear from going passed level. I have talked to @ least 10 different people who's trucks set level, or who added leveling kits, & the rear STILL was lower than the front w/Timbrens. As far as your hitch being in the way w/airbags, The only hitch I've seen interfere w/the bag brackets is the B&W Companion. But I do know that Pacbrake makes a special bracket to compensate for it, you just have to let them know you have one when you order it. HTH

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