Fact is a 29' trailer is tooooo much for a 1/2 ton Burb. I'd look at under 25'.
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Cranman5 wrote: I went to the scales and weighed my truck - 1 passenger & full tank of gas= 6000 lbs.
Your GVWR is 7,200lbs, so 7,200 - 6,000 = 1,200 lbs that you can then
load up your Suburban to reach it's GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating).
This 1,200 lbs inludes all passengers, pets, cargo, etc loading onto/into
the Sub....PLUS the Hitch and the trailer tongue weight.
A trailer that weighs in at (actual LOADED weight, not published) 6.1K,
it should have a tongue weight in the 10%-15% (prefer min 12% or more).
That means a tongue weight the 'can' be around 1,000 lbs.
With that potential max tongue weight, you would have 1,200 - 1,000 = 200 lbs
for the rest of the stuff you 'might' load into/onto the Sub. Like
people, pets, cargo, etc.
Or if on the min side, the tongue weight would be around 600 lbs. That
would mean 1,200 - 600 = 600 lbs for the stuff you 'might' load into/onto
the Sub.
You have all of this info in previous posts and missing was your
Suburbans actual weight.
Now that you have actually weighed your Suburban, you now have enough
information to intelligently shop for a trailer and not get 'hooked,
line and sinker' by the salesperson.
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Cranman5 wrote: I went to the scales and weighed my truck - 1 passenger & full tank of gas= 6000 lbs.
Your GVWR is 7,200lbs, so 7,200 - 6,000 = 1,200 lbs that you can then
load up your Suburban to reach it's GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating).
This 1,200 lbs inludes all passengers, pets, cargo, etc loading onto/into
the Sub....PLUS the Hitch and the trailer tongue weight.
A trailer that weighs in at (actual LOADED weight, not published) 6.1K,
it should have a tongue weight in the 10%-15% (prefer min 12% or more).
That means a tongue weight the 'can' be around 1,000 lbs.
With that potential max tongue weight, you would have 1,200 - 1,000 = 200 lbs
for the rest of the stuff you 'might' load into/onto the Sub. Like
people, pets, cargo, etc.
Or if on the min side, the tongue weight would be around 600 lbs. That
would mean 1,200 - 600 = 600 lbs for the stuff you 'might' load into/onto
the Sub.
You have all of this info in previous posts and missing was your
Suburbans actual weight.
Now that you have actually weighed your Suburban, you now have enough
information to intelligently shop for a trailer and not get 'hooked,
line and sinker' by the salesperson.
So that deals with your TV GVWR. Now add the TT which can weigh 7835 (from their documentation), and you are at 15035, which is 1k over your GCWR. Get a camper with less than 6800 GVWR and preferably under 6000 for a 13% or greater cushion. If you tow at say 20% below maximum you won't work your TV so hard and wear out as much stuff.
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I have a Cougar 301BHS - same floorplan (See it here), just a few more storage cupboards inside and a rear garage added on the back. Just as an FYI - it weighs ~9000# loaded for a 3 week trip. I'd be pretty sure you'll be right around 7500# at MINIMUM when that trailer is loaded for a trip. Mine was listed (by Cougar) as 6580# dry.
I live near you, and bought mine at Village RV, and weighed it on the CAT scale at the Husky.
Dry weights are pretty much useless, and always low. Remember you only pull an empty trailer once - and that's when you bring it home.
To make the 29BHS into an X-Lite, all they did was delete the rear garage (18" shorter), remove a few cabinets inside (over queen bed and in the slide), and call it an X-Lite. The floor plan I have is identical. I bet 8000# will be very close to what it'll weigh when you actually got to use it.
Now, having said that, that's going to be a heck of a load for a 5.3L V8 IMO. I towed mine with a 2001 Dodge 2500 w/4.10 gears powered by the 360 cu in V8 gas engine, and it struggled. I got 4 (worst) - 7 (best) mpg while doing it too. I upgraded to a 2002 Diesel.
On the CAT scale, my tongue weight was over 1200#.
ib516 wrote: I have a Cougar 301BHS - same floorplan (See it here), just a few more storage cupboards inside and a rear garage added on the back. Just as an FYI - it weighs ~9000# loaded for a 3 week trip. I'd be pretty sure you'll be right around 7500# at MINIMUM when that trailer is loaded for a trip. Mine was listed (by Cougar) as 6580# dry.
I live near you, and bought mine at Village RV, and weighed it on the CAT scale at the Husky.
Dry weights are pretty much useless, and always low. Remember you only pull an empty trailer once - and that's when you bring it home.
To make the 29BHS into an X-Lite, all they did was delete the rear garage (18" shorter), remove a few cabinets inside (over queen bed and in the slide), and call it an X-Lite. The floor plan I have is identical. I bet 8000# will be very close to what it'll weigh when you actually got to use it.
Now, having said that, that's going to be a heck of a load for a 5.3L V8 IMO. I towed mine with a 2001 Dodge 2500 w/4.10 gears powered by the 360 cu in V8 gas engine, and it struggled. I got 4 (worst) - 7 (best) mpg while doing it too. I upgraded to a 2002 Diesel.
On the CAT scale, my tongue weight was over 1200#.
Thanks again everyone for the input. This site has proven to already be an invaluable tool for information. I had originally looked at the Cougar 301 BHS because I liked the layout. Unfourtunatley the X-lite is looking like it will also be to heavy for my rig. I've learned a great deal about towing over the last month, but I'm glad I was smart enough to educate myself before running out and buying a trailer. I'm sure I've done nothing but saved myself alot of grief. Thanks again to everyone who participated in my post. FYI : I am not giving up on finding a trailer yet. I just have to look at some that may be smaller and lighter. It's just a matter of finding the right floor plan. If any one has any suggestions please let me know. I'm looking for a good floorp,lan that would suit 2 adults and 4 small children. Also suggestions on brands of travel trailers as well(good ones vs. bad ones). Thanks again. - Jason
One that I can think of that is made by a few different manufacturers (the one we looked at in 2004 was an Outback). It has 4 bunks up front, and a queen hard slide out "box" that pushes straight out the rear. There RV dealer in Moose Jaw had one that was a "Sportsman" brand that was the same. I'll try to find it on the web and post a link.
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