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Kountryguy

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Posted: 05/19/08 02:42pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a Cobra Highgear 500 watt continuous, inverter. DC input voltage is 13.5. AC output voltage is 95.6. Any ideas what the problem could be? Might this be fixable, or should I just buy a new one? Thanks, Gil

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Yes, the meter you're measuring it with doesn't play well with MSW. Just plug a lamp or something into it and see if it works.

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Get a true RMS meter to measure MSW inverter voltage. It is probably fine.

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As previously mentioned some chep meters do not work well with anything but a sine wave.


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smkettner wrote:

Get a true RMS meter
Which may cost more than the inverter?

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What caused me to check the voltage was that the TV worked, but the Satelite receivers broke up on some stations. I wondered if voltage was the problem. Maybe not. The receivers works fine on shore power. Gil

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Posted: 05/19/08 04:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MSW is probably the culprit for the signal issue.

Smallish sine wave inverters. $117 to $257


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Voltage is not the problem. MSW is.

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2oldman wrote:

smkettner wrote:

Get a true RMS meter
Which may cost more than the inverter?

Depends on how much the inverter cost -- and how much the TV's are worth.
This one's no Fluke, but it will work -- $90.


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MSW inverter and peak reading voltmeter.

There are two types of voltmeters, one is a peak reading and the other is called a "True RMS" voltmeter. Not to get too technical but it is easier to make a Peak reading meter than a true RMS

RMS (Literally "Root, Mean, Square) represents the area between the power output"Trace"and the base line.

Peak, represents the maximum (And minimum) vale of the trace.

The difference, is that becuse of the "Stair step" shape of the MSW wave form it peaks at a lower voltage I believe a peak reading meter, looking at 120 volts RMS, actually sees sometihng like 84.84 volts peak (or 169.68 volts peak to peak) It then multiples by 1/sqrt(2) to get the RMS voltage because for a TRUE sine wave, This is the conversion factor

but with the sharp rise and flat top of the MSW the Peak voltage does not go that high, so your peak reading meter, not knowing any factor other than 1/sqrt(2) gives a false low reading.


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