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lwmuddy

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Posted: 08/17/08 05:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I looks like "what ever the traffic will bare" in some areas. Here in SC on the coast it was $3.59 a couple of days ago, but this was a little off the beaten track. On more heavily travel hwy's it's higher.

Maybe there is a local, county or city tax difference. Seems everyone is trying to get into the act and then we blame "Big Oil". The blame game is in high gear.

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younchem wrote:

MikeSmith wrote:

younchem wrote:


Do you understand how oil is formed?


Yes.


Could you give us a general explanation?


That's what I thought.

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Posted: 08/18/08 06:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

younchem wrote:

MikeSmith wrote:

younchem wrote:


Do you understand how oil is formed?


Yes.


Could you give us a general explanation?


Sure.

50 years ago, common knowledge was that oil came from dead dinosaurs.

Now, common knowledge is that oil comes from dead plankton and other organic material and is still being created as we speak.

As our knowledge of chemistry increases, we may learn that oil comes from a natural earth process, the high-temperature, high-pressure continuous reaction between calcium carbonate and iron oxide deep within the earth's crust. A number of geologists already believe this theory.

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MikeSmith wrote:

Sure.

50 years ago, common knowledge was that oil came from dead dinosaurs.

Now, common knowledge is that oil comes from dead plankton and other organic material and is still being created as we speak.
Actually, those in the field have always known it was from plankton & such. It was only in the popular press that the idea of "dino oil" became common. Many of the "new discoveries" are simply people figuring out how to get more oil out of older deposits. For example, one might be able to pump superheated steam into an old well to get more of the oil out. Another method is to "fracture" the deposit (that means putting explosives down the well and setting them off).

This new theory won't help us if the oil coming to near the surface is flowing slower than we are using it. An infinite tap running at 1 gallon a minute won't be much use if your needs are over 100 gallons a minute.

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If "those in the field have always known it was from plankton & such", then how come it was common knowledge that oil came from decomposed and compressed dinosaurs, back in the 1950's & 1960's. In fact the dinosaur theory was taught in school back then...

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Another method is to "fracture" the deposit (that means putting explosives down the well and setting them off).


Someone else who is living on hearsay or history. Fracing a well, is not done with explosives. Maybe back in the mid 20th century, but not in the past several decades.


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The Texan wrote:

Doug4.7 wrote:



Another method is to "fracture" the deposit (that means putting explosives down the well and setting them off).




Someone else who is living on hearsay or history. Fracing a well, is not done with explosives. Maybe back in the mid 20th century, but not in the past several decades.


Is this one of the methods?

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Yep, that is the most common method in this day and age.

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Someone else who is living on hearsay or history. Fracing a well, is not done with explosives. Maybe back in the mid 20th century, but not in the past several decades.
I know that was what they did to the well on my grandparent's property. It was not "mid-20th century", more like the 70's.

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MikeSmith wrote:

If "those in the field have always known it was from plankton & such", then how come it was common knowledge that oil came from decomposed and compressed dinosaurs, back in the 1950's & 1960's. In fact the dinosaur theory was taught in school back then...
I can only go as far back as my experience. When I talked to my PE friends, it was not dinosaurs, although they did call it "dino oil" as more of a joke.

Actually, it is partially dinosaurs, but the oceanic biomass make up a much greater portion. Again, it is not my field, but I know folks who are in that field. I don't always ask them the right questions, but I try....

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