It was on the news tonight. This is from Indianapolis Channel 6 web site. There was nothing wrong with the RV! This is something to really think about if boondocking in tight quarters!
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Nothing Wrong Found With RV After Death Near Indy 500
SPEEDWAY, Ind. -- Investigators said Wednesday that they found no evidence that a recreational vehicle in which an Illinois man was found unresponsive outside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway produced the carbon monoxide fumes that killed him and sickened other family members.
The RV the family was staying in did not have its engine or a generator running. But others nearby did, and investigators believe their emissions might have been pulled in through an open vent.
Speedway police Lt. Trent Theobald said there was no indication of wrongdoing. He said Speedway firefighters handled the investigation.
Michael Thies, 43, of Ruma, Ill., was pronounced dead after he and three family members were found unconscious in their RV before Sunday's Indy 500. Their RV was among several parked close together in a lot across the street from the track.
Other family members included in-laws Debrah Buss, 53, who was listed in good condition Wednesday at Wishard Memorial Hospital; and Fred Buss, 61, of Oakdale, Ill., who was in serious condition in intensive care.
A Wishard spokesman said no condition was available for the fourth family member, Charles Buss, 69, of Marissa, Ill. Theobald also had no update on his condition.
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This past week some friends of ours came to visit us in our cg. for 3 nights. They are fulltiming but left their rig and came to see us. The third night was Friday, beginning Memorial Day and we had many rigs pull into the cg. We aren't that close together, but 1 rig across the road from us had a noise coming from it and our friend said "he running his generator and we've been known to go ask them to turn it off." I didn't think it was making that much noise, but they were concerned about fumes, which I thought was an overreaction. Turns out it was his air conditioning, not a generator, but NOW I understand their concerns. Wow...very scary!
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On the news they showed it to be a class "C" motorhome being towed away after the accident. That being the case the only vent I can think of is one of the roof vents being the vent in question. That being the case and if the motorhome was parked in one of the lots across from the speedway on Georgetown I can see how this could have happened. In those lots they are really packed in tight...there's trees and such to block most of the air flow...and if memory serves me there wasn't much of a breeze down there on Sunday night. The humidity was up and the air was sort of stagnet even where we were staying. In fact we were using a fan in our 5ver just to get a breeze of some type inside it was so stuffy.
If there were other motorhomes were using the "above the roof" type chimney stacks in this lot I can see how it could have drifted out of these stacks and then settled back towards the ground. I can also see that if this guy was parked close that it could have drifted down over his coach. That being the case I surprised there weren't more effected unless they were closed up and on air conditioners when this guy wasn't.....Just speculation on my part but I can see how could happen. A lot of the larger units in our lot used the chimney stacks but there was some distance between the units and we were in a wide open lot. Really sad and something to think about when participating in these events.
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I thought the tall genny exhaust pipes were required in these situations? Were they being used? If so, very scary! I thought the purpose was to get the exhaust up and away from the RVs and not let it hover at ground level to seep into RVs.
Stuff to think about if camping in these types of situations, for sure.
Most RV's exhaust their generator either to the side (right under the neighbor's RV) or to the rear (In some cases that's yet another neighbor's RV) the gas gets trapped under the rig and then rises through small holes in the floor.. This is the very same as a car with a leaky exhaust system.. My troopers came across one of those my first year on the job.. Saved one, the other was dead beyond recovery. (2 people in car, mother and six year old, they saved the mother, that was before Christmas in 1978, Detroit Free Press archives will have the story if you think I'm kidding, They saved a life and got about 2 collum inches.. In case you wonder why I recall all this.. I'm still TICKED OFF, actually, I'd like to use stronger language but.. Moderation and all that, Deserved front page photo spread in my opinion.. I mean THEY BROUGHT HER BACK FROM DEAD!, How many could be saved if that was shouted and more folks were encouraged to learn how?)
That is why I often post about the Gen-Turi generator exhaust extension
This device first mixes the hot exhaust gas with air to cool it down some (Thus preventing burns should you contact the extension pipe) then hauls the warm gas up over the roof.. Since as anyone who has gotten too close to a political center knows (from that great sucking wind) hot air rises.. and so does hot exhaust gas... The gas then continues up up and away
Folks often talk about the possibility of exhaust gas being sucked in via an open roof vent (Sounds like the news article above) but remember it's going up not down, and the Gen-turi's top end is higher than the vent
In all the years CAMCO has been making the thin I do not believe they have had one case of that happening. In fact I don not believe (Based on my study of the science involved and my personal use of the Gen-Turi) that it CAN happen.
To go in via a vent the exhaust gas would have to go DOWN, and since hot gases go UP as a rule.. And this is not an exception to the rule... That simply can not happen.
I've run my generator 2 hours without it,, (more than once) and gotten a CO alarm I've run 25 hours WITH and not gotten any alarm or other evidence of CO in the rig. I've parked next to someone else and within 2 hours his generator set off my alarm. I've parked next to someone with a Gen-turi.. No alarm.
I would suggest we suggest to NASCR that they adopt rules requiring that all generators have exhaust "Stacks" to get the exhaust up over the roof so that this type of thing does not happen again.
Same for FMCA and anyone else who packs RV's in like sardines
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Like wa8yxm, I and our group are strong proponents of the Genturi generator exhaust stacks. I and the extended camping families have been parked many times in like sardines and the only times we've had alarms from the CO monitors has been when the stacks were NOT in use.
Needless to say a WORKING CO detector is a requirement no matter what. We've seen a lot of alarms from a single RV who's genset exhaust end up putting CO under the RV due to wind or lack of it conditions. Not to mention others nearby sending their exhaust over to you.
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