We have what I consider a small TT.
24 Ft, I consider it small as it has no slide and no couch.
weighs in at 4200 ish loaded.
Next time I'm near a scale I will find out for sure.
03 Nissan Xterra
Travel Star Sport XLT 24 FQB by Starcraft 3570 LBS Dry
Prodogy EBC, Reece Dual Cam WDH
Aloha Utah wrote: TT with a 21' box here. Too big to be a small TT and too small to be a big TT.
I feel so unloved.
Same here, just under 23ft box on a labeled 21, guess we are just not wanted. or maybe we should have our own unloved group! GVWR over 7000 so really feel unwanted, but will get over it.
2005 Ford F250SD
V-10 torqshift, tow command
2004 Komfort
"April" the attack cat!
since i am in a 12fter. i have even thought about the tent areas. Those big boys scare me a little(i see a cartoon in my head). especially when mine would probably fit in their BR..
i did see some tiny ones in the tent area over the memorial weekend. one thing for sure we can squeeze in about anywhere..YIPPIE..
Well, if you have a 31' then a 25' is small. We have a 25' so I figure a 20' is small. Might be easier to break them down between PUP, Hybrids, and etc as opposed to hard side models.
Dick
2008 Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited TRD
2009 Cougar 268 RLS ~8400 lbs road wt
Equal-i-zer 12,000 lb hitch, Prodigy BC.
2006 Jeep Liberty Turbo Diesel.....TV in Training
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI,(retired)
2005 Jayco Jay Feather 25Z, 4" lift (Retired)
Rubiranch wrote: I do agree with you, no parameters and no rules, not good.
I too agree with you & asked the moderator for a definition of "Small TT". And here was his response.
"mehwwh wrote:
And, what is the definition of a "Small TT"?
Well, my definition would be anything UNDER 31' but your definition may be different... Why is a definition needed in the first place - use common sense... Generally speaking, what was discussed during the initial conversations regarding this forum was anything under 20'in length, but yours will qualify...
I don't want to and won't get into a discussion about what qualifies as a "small TT" so if you want to participate do so - if not - don't... It's like any other forum within RV.Net - you don't have to own one to participate...
The sub-category was requested, there was enough interest, so it was created... "nuff said" - enjoy the forum ...
Moderator"
'03 Silverado 1500, Ext.Cab, Z71 Off Road, 4X4, 5.3L, 3.73 rear, AutoMeter Trans Temp Gauge, Putnam Class IV
'08 Jayco JayFlight G2 23FB, Reese WD Hitch, HP Dual Cam Sway, 800# Trunnion Bars, Barker 3000# Power Tongue Jack
I don't get the differences your talking about between a large and small tt. I understand the similarities. Also, I understand that small tt's can do some things better. But larger tt's can do other things better as well. But to seperate the two?
Seems that both would have the same issues only scaled down. (i.e.. Towing, WD hitches, set-up, loading & unloading)
I just don't see this small tt forum getting big. Sorry for the pun.
We ended up with a vintage forum and it took off pretty well but I see it now has hit a flat spot in the road, not to much "new talk".
I would go with size and not weight as the deciding factor here.
Hope you the best here.
2001 GMC Sierra 2500HD 8.1/Allison 4x4
1964 Ander-ett 16' TT Please check out my profile... "The camera always adds 10 lbs. So the trailer's not over weight."
Essie2Go wrote: I'm with the under 20 feet.... At 17 feet we don't use sway or friction bars or anything at all, we just tow with the ball. Over a year of travel in all kinds of weather we've never felt sway or fish tailing or anything else. Our challenges come from space and finding campgrounds where we can find privacy amongst the "apartment buildings" created by huge 5th wheels and trailers. We wish we could sneak in amongst the tenters but I'm sure they would feel we were blocking their view!
Length is not always a sway factor. I had an incident on a wet sloped gravel road (Cassiar Hwy in BC) where my 1,700 lb Scamp 13' yanked my 4,400 lb Dodge pickup around like you wouldn't believe! Fortunately no one was in the other lane, because I had to go there to recover...
I fixed it all by moving my receiver hitch and ball about 4" closer to the truck axle, moving heavy tools and parts to front and taking truck spare off rear and mounting on front bumper. So, I changed the towing geometry (shortened the overhang) and changed the weight distribution in the truck to make the front end bear a lot more weight.
Actually, I could have accomplished some of that with a WDH, but that would have put a lot more weight on the trailer axle.
TV: Mint 1972 Ford F-250 XLT
TT: 1969 19' Excel; entertains 6, feeds 4, sleeps 2 You don't shoot to kill, you shoot to stay alive.
I don't carry because I have to, I carry because I get to. I like new things-
- when they're 40 years old! My pictures
I just don't see this small tt forum getting big. Sorry for the pun.
We ended up with a vintage forum and it took off pretty well but I see it now has hit a flat spot in the road, not to much "new talk".
I thought the same thing when I first read the request for a small trailer forum.
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or maybe we should have our own unloved group! GVWR over 7000 so really feel unwanted, but will get over it.
