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campknitter

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Posted: 06/02/08 09:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

here are a few of the specs for the Tacoma

14 ft
Gross Veh. Weight Rating3,750 lbs
Unloaded Vehicle Weight2,850 lbs
Unloaded Tongue Weight200 lbs
Max. Carrying Capacity900 lbs
Front Storage Trunk Cap.NA
Cabinet Storage Cap.43 cu. ft.
Total Storage Capacity 43 cu. ft.
Tire Size205/75D14
Dimensions Open (L x W)19'3" x 8'1"
Dimensions Closed (L x W)19'3"x 7'5" Height (Open)8' 7" Height (Closed)5' 4" Interior Height 81"
Front Bed SizeNA
Rear Bed SizeNA
Conv. Bench / Bed Size 52" x 81" Conv.
Dinette / Bed Size28" x 69"
Water Storage Cap. (* Incl. std 6 gal. water heater)36 gal
Roof TypeNo Maintenance Seamless Filon® Skin with Integrated Roof Rack Rails Side Wall MaterialKrystal Kote ® Finish
Galvanized Steel Front & Rear Wall MaterialKrystal Kote ® Finish Galvanized Steel with Diamond Plate Aluminum Front
Tenting TypeSunbrella 302
Aluminum Wheels Std
Vinyl Gas Bottle Cover
Std Vinyl Spare Tire Cover
Std Gray Water Holding Tank (gal.)20
Sand Pads (pkg. 4)Std
Water Tank LocationUnderfloor Front Gear Deck CapNA Rear Gear Deck CapNA Frt Gear Deck Dim. (LxW)NA Rr Gear Deck Dim. (LxW)NA Kitchen & Cooking
3-Way Refrigerator Cap.4.2 cu. ft. FurnaceStd 16K btu Water Pump12 volt Interior Stove3 burner Exterior High Pressure Stove (2 Burner)Std - integral Exterior Low Pressure StoveNA Propane Tank Capacity2 @ 20lbs each OvenStd MicrowaveNA

It is heavier than my Orbit, but the low profile gives it a plus. This unit would be nice for 2 people.

to the OP, I would like to see more aerodynamic innovative trailers too. Maybe the U.S. manufacturers will start looking at the European market for ideas, I hope.

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Posted: 06/02/08 09:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Gale Hawkins

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Posted: 06/02/08 09:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The RV industry did not learn why the Big Three auto makers lost the world markets did they?

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Posted: 06/02/08 09:38pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We had a Country Coach that was well built, inuslated and well sealed and yes, it had 3 AC's on top. In hot weather we made sure the windshield was covered but at times we'd turn on the front AC to bring down the temps. Then we could use AC 2 and 3 if needed. They just don't have the insulation that a house does so we were glad to have 3, but very seldom did we need all of them at once. Also, if we needed some cooling at night, we could turn on AC 1 and duct it to the bedroom which made it much quieter.

I agree, something in the RV world is going to have to change.


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jtallon

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Posted: 06/02/08 09:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm sure we'll see at least some designs to meet the new demands for better efficiency.

But it takes time. Anything that radical requires a fair bit of re-engineering and testing. And the manufacturers aren't going to spend the money that takes until they're sure high fuel prices are here to stay, rather than a temporary condition.

These kinds of things always take twice as long as logic says they should...


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WishWeWereCamping

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Posted: 06/02/08 10:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I had this idea a while back about having an RV where you would have a small front unit with a basic sleeping area, kitchen, and bath that would always be your own. Then, campgrounds would have the rear unit available on-site with a bigger living area, etc. that you could connect to (or not). The connection would be kind of like the way that smaller airports have the expanding passenger area expando-tube (I don't know what they call it) that expands out and fits onto the plane for passenger loading. That way you could have a smaller traveling unit on the road (for better mpg and ease of driving) and still have the availbility of more room once you reached your destination. If there was some way to make the specifications industry-wide, it could work for everyone. Or the adapter/connection could be made to work for older units.

This is a challenging and exciting time for all of us to come up with better ideas and ways of doing things. I'm looking forward to the future and the invention of many energy-saving ways of living. The technology is available; it needs to be supported and wanted by the general population to make it cost-effective for all of us.

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had this idea a while back about having an RV where you would have a small front unit with a basic sleeping area, kitchen, and bath that would always be your own. Then, campgrounds would have the rear unit available on-site with a bigger living area, etc. that you could connect to (or not). The connection would be kind of like the way that smaller airports have the expanding passenger area expando-tube (I don't know what they call it) that expands out and fits onto the plane for passenger loading. That way you could have a smaller traveling unit on the road (for better mpg and ease of driving) and still have the availbility of more room once you reached your destination. If there was some way to make the specifications industry-wide, it could work for everyone. Or the adapter/connection could be made to work for older units.


One of many reasons we bought our RVs is we want our own bed, living area and bath.
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if you want aerodamic look at Rexhall!!! Dual pane windows standard. When I picked up my new Rexair 2 weeks ago we took a factory tour, the man that normally gives the tour was off sick, so we were given the tour by Bill Rex. He is a very down to earth man, very easy to talk to. His two big things are building a strong motorhome, and to use his words clean.The smother the airflow the happier he is. He is building a 30' full slide prototype.

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Posted: 06/03/08 04:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My thoughts while reading this thread was to recall all the threads that say that light means less quality and heavier is better. This perception will have to be changed and I am not sure it can be done by RV manufactures.


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Mr. October

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First off, those that have always been able to afford the luxury class motorhomes can no doubt still afford them.

Next, for full-timers even at high fuel costs living in an RV is still FAR, FAR cheaper then owning a fixed stick home. No property taxes, heating and cooling are reduced because you can change climate, along with reduced maintenance costs, etc. and so forth.

Finally, Class C motorhomes are a bit at the mercy of the chassis builders. I have noticed a flood of new entries in the Sprinter-based market as well as more and more innovation in the Class B market. In Europe Class Bs are far more popular then they are here mostly due to fuel costs and space.

Perhaps what is needed is not more innovation from the manufacturers but rather from the consumers.


Pete G. ('07 Itasca Navion 23H - Reading, PA)


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