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geneo2004

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Posted: 06/05/08 10:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I recently wanted to check the brakes on my Dodge 2500 CTD and found the lug nuts so tight that I didn't have a tool that could loosen them. I shattered a socket trying. What do others do. Also, when I took it to a tire shop to do the check, they used a torque wrench to tighten them to 120 lbs. Is this normal? Any suggestions what to do if I ever have a flat?

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Posted: 06/05/08 10:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I always carry a 4-way lug wrench because of the extra torgue you have, and so I'm always covered for any size lug...My TV and TT are different sizes. Never met a lug I couldn't loosen with a 4-way.

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Posted: 06/05/08 10:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My 2006 D/A 3/4 ton calls for 120 ft/#'s torque. Check your owners manual, it may have torque values.


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Buy a socket that is for an impact wrench, and you can either buy a breaker bar, or get a piece of pipe two to three feet long that will fit over one end of your 4-way. The pipe will give you more leverage, and you can also push with your foot on the other side of the 4-way.


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When you get home after having tires rotated or other service, it's a good idea to check lugs for over/under tightness. Same for inflation pressure. Lately they just can't seem to get it right and I'm really glad I checked.

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Air impact with impact an socket. I torque lugnuts to 120 ft. lbs.


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Gene,

The last shop that tightened those lug nuts didn't do it right.

An ordinary socket and breaker bar with you standing (or bouncing) on the handle will loosen nuts tightened to 120 lbs-ft. Yours were way too tight. I'd suggest that in the future you insist on witnessing the torquing of your lug nuts. Tell them that you require to see each nut turn slightly before the torque wrench reaches the specified torque, 120 in this case. Accept no excuses or, "we always do it THIS way." The customer is always right, and you are the customer. Quietly, calmly, say, "No, do it my way."


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Buy a torque wrench and proper socket. Carry two sockets, one for the trailer and one for the truck. Always check them yourself for proper torque. And yes I believe that Dodge lists 120lb ft as the proper torque. At least for my dually it is.


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If steel wheels, could be, most likely be rusted mating surfaces between
the lug nut and wheel's coined hole.

If alloy wheels, could be, most likely galvanic action between the
aluminum and steel lug nuts at the mating surface.

And/Or the lug nut threads and studs have rusted, or has dirt/sand/grit/etc
that has gouged the mating surfaces.

Over tightening 'usually' has the stud streeeeeeetch and lesser torque
or holding/clamping forces because the metal has gone past it's yeild
point.

Lug nuts/studs should be torqued in a criss cross pattern and in ever
increasing steps till the final torque with the full weight of the
vehicle on the tires.

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Go to Harbor Freight...24" breaker bar with 1/2" drive...$10 guaranteed for life.

They also sell a 1/2" drive torque wrench for $20, or if it's on sale, $15...also guaranteed for life.

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